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RE: New Funtana 125
Look at the group all the way at the bottom, "fun fly props" http://www.chiefaircraft.com/rcmsec/Models/Accessories/Props/APCProps.html
Posted on: 10/19/2009 9:12 AM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Seagull Edge 540 - 68
And just like that.......... the fuse is out of stock. They must have had a few folks waiting for it.
Posted on: 10/16/2009 6:44 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
WOW that's HEAVY!!! My 1.20 ax (per tower) wieghs just short of 30 ounces ready to go. My 5 cell aa pack sits about 2 inches behind the back of the canopy. The engine swings a 16x6 with a wicked authority. This is absolutely my favorite glow engine for anything 3d under 11 lbs. I have 3 of them. If you tickle them just right you can get at least 14 lbs of thrust. And that's on 5%.
Posted on: 10/13/2009 10:19 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Seagull Edge 540 - 68
After only a 3 year wait, Horizon actualy has the fuse IN STOCK! I have mine ordered. And a cowl. I am planning on repairing the minor tip damage to my left wing. I will also scratch build an airfoiled tail, cuz I'm sick of the flying wires on this thing. It shouldn't need them.
Posted on: 10/12/2009 10:31 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: New Funtana 125
Anyone notice that this thing is out of stock already??? Nice.
Posted on: 10/3/2009 11:50 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: New Funtana 125
[quote]ORIGINAL: chuck993 I'd get one, but I have 2 Funtana X 100s, one up and running with an OS 120 AX and a NIB X 100 for backup... [/quote] Oh you are another 1.20 ax lover I see!!!!!! I have three of them on 3..... well two planes now in the same size catagory. A phoenox models extra 330 and a seagull edge 540. Both are in the "just under 70 inch size class.....8-9 lbs. I since have lost the edge...but am currently flying a 1.20 in another edge I bought used (cheap) from another cub member. So to make a long story short....... I have never owned a funtana. The first thing I noticed about this bird was the WING AREA!!!!!!!!!! Over 1100 inches!!!! Holy Sheeet! My Extra and edge only have 700 and 600 sq inches respectively. The question I have is how do you prop your ax on the funtana? I found 16x6 is GREAT for making gobs of power......like 9500rpm and 14 lbs of thrust. But at that rpm the pitch speed starts to get high and they can both move pretty fast. I could see the funtana as being a balsa "foamie"...... wanting loads of thrust with not so much airspeed. Being as big as it is and not tooo heavy...... sounds like a very lightly built airframe. Maybe a 17x5 prop for the 120??? Idk..... just looking for some thoughts.....
Posted on: 9/27/2009 10:03 AM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
[quote]ORIGINAL: faulknej Is the YSÂ 120 too much for this plane? [/quote] The plane can handle the weight........so........ If you are a pilot who uses throttle moderatly.....no. If you fly at wot constantly, yes.
Posted on: 9/26/2009 8:18 AM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
[quote]ORIGINAL: Indiomike Hi. I am currently putting together a GP Escapade but am looking very closely to the Pulse 60 as my next project. I have read this thread up through page 23 so it is possible the following comment has been addressed and I just haven't gotten to it yet. I have noted many guys have discussed the engine mounting as either 90 (actually 270) degrees where a Pitts style muffler would be appropriate, or using the factory set mounting of 270 (actually 225) degrees which would place the regular muffler at the bottom underneath the engine, or inverted (actually 180) mounting where the cylinder head is pointing straight down. It seems to me the reference to the factory set motor mount installation as 270 degrees is not correct. At 270 degrees, the cylinder head would be pointing due West or perpendicular to the ground. The factory setting is more like midpoint between inverted and 270 degrees, say 225 degrees. Is this not correct. I realize it's no big deal but every time someone says they mounted their engine at the 270 degree point I tend to cringe. Anyways, I think this is a very good model for the price and I will likely be getting one soon. Of course, I'll use the factory set mounting position of 27......er Southwest orientation.[;)] [/quote] Apparently you use cad. So lets make a simple comparison to a clock. When facing the plane nose on, the three o'clock position is zero. Noon is 90 degrees, 9'oclock is 180 and 6 is 270. The factory mounting position is 180+45 degrees, or 225. But if you are reffering to an upright location as the baseline, horizontal would be 90 and inverted would be 180, and the "southwest" position would be 135 degrees. I guess it depends on your perspective. I run my engine westerly. And it is a very good model for the price.
Posted on: 9/26/2009 8:16 AM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Imho I dont think the yellow will do you much good on the wing bottom, I'd elect for red or black. Also I STRICTLY stay with a striped wing bottom that parallels the fuselage for quick orientation. A starburst pattern, which almost every plane has some variation of, is something that belongs on the top of the wing. I didnt mean to rain on your parade, just looking to help you out.
Posted on: 9/21/2009 11:06 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Building a Dynaflite Super Decathlon
That is a VERy beautiful plane. I really love the colors you chose. Very classy. Excellent work! I bet it looks awesome in person!!!!!
Posted on: 9/19/2009 9:59 AM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Seagull Edge 540 - 68
They are Hitec horns that come with the servos. I usually use dubro long arms.... whether I use futaba or hitec servos. On a side note........... I miss my edge.[&o] Will be ordering a replacement soon...........
Posted on: 9/18/2009 8:52 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Building a Dynaflite Super Decathlon
If you paid any attention to my build (a bit of sarcasam) I tried to scale this thing as best as I could. I am pretty happy with the results. I get WOW's every time I bring it out to the field. But I had to put ALOT of effort into the scale factor. I studied view after view of a full scale decathlon, and did the best I could working with the contents of the box. A real decathlon fanatic could tear it apart though. You are 100% right about this kit. This kit is less than high quality. The wood is marginal at best. The scale factor is way off. Fun scale, like the box says. When I want "fun scale" I will buy an arf. For a build, it better be at bare minimum 90% scale. And I am not reffering to finite details..... just the outline..... man it better match the full scale version....... Or what's the point???? As for the cg....I put a OS 1.60, 15 aa batteries, and a sub c in the nose to get balance. And I put all my tail servo's in the cockpit. Mine came in at an unofficial 19 lbs. WITH A GLOW ENGINE!!! I did add a few extra's to make the scale factor.... so the weight penalty is partially my fault. But it sure does impress with a "smoke on" hammerhead.... I dont want to discourage anyone from building this kit. It is a fun build. But if scale is what you are looking for, then be prepared for some high effort. I have a SOLID four months into mine.
Posted on: 9/16/2009 11:52 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Building a Dynaflite Super Decathlon
It's funny you asked how the decaths were doing............as there's not been much activity here lately. Glad your build is going well. I am enjoying mine. You will be happy with it once you are finished. Just remember to keep it light!!!!! The landing gear will thank you. TRUST ME!!!! Actually I'm going to contact a guy here in the US about building some carbon fiber gear for it. I have seen how strong his gear can be first hand. I figured this would be a great plane to have some alternative gear for, because the kit gear really dont do the job. I'll update when I know more. I'm sure if he builds gear for me he'd like to sell more of the same. Also, here area a few pics of the Decath from flying last weekend. And a quick vid too!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr9rn4ange0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL8yxq7DNvI
Posted on: 9/12/2009 9:38 AM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Seagull Edge 540 - 68
I know a few people have had poor luck with this model. But some have had good...... My good luck ran out last Tuesday. Splat. The only thing I have to blame is my own thumbs. Came out of a crazy 3d spin..... rolled to a vertical downline.... very close to ground.....nailed the throttle to have power to prevent a stall when I cranked up elevator. But I took too long to decide on my choice of the correct direction... up or down???? I chose neither. It went in nose 1st at wot. Dang. Amazingly the wings came out quite well. Only damage on one tip. Crazy. This time the wing tube finally bent. Fuse is a total loss. I might be able to get by purchasing a fuse, and cowl. But as bad as the tail is I'd probably have to do surgery to fix. And who knows what the inside of the wings look like. I guess I'll have to pick up another arf. But it wont be in the air till spring. Bummer. All good planes seem to come to an end.
Posted on: 9/7/2009 11:32 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
My apologies.......... I thought the stock servos would be like 40 some oz inches of torque.......... that should be fine. But I HIGHLY recommend 5 cells with spektrum rx's. That way you can avoid the contoversial "brown out"......... This is how I set up servos for max torque............ I drive them as far as I can in both directions until they stop. Then I back of 2 or 3 clicks and those become my endpoints. Then I set up my linkages for max throw I will ever use at that point. That way you have full use of your servo from lock to lock. Right or wrong. Thats how I do it. It works for me. ( when I mean drive as far as I can ........... I get close to that 150% when I am doing this......... sometimes more with expo depending on mfg'r)
Posted on: 8/16/2009 11:27 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Did you max out your servo travel with your tx? You should be able to get what you need. But be warned, I do believe that standard jr servos are not enough for this plane, especially with maxed out throws. Get some futaba 3010's or equivalent and run them on 5 cells. And on those I use the long dubro arms.
Posted on: 8/16/2009 1:05 AM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
And the results show......... Everything turned out good. Played with the cg to get it right, and it seemed to land alot better, even on the tail heavy side. I am glad all in all that I made the change. I still cant quite get her to spin like she used to...... but...... I know I could REALLY take some fuel weight out of this plane. I flew mixed 3d for 15 minutes and STILL landed wiith 1/3 tank of fuel left!!!!! Im running a 16 oz tank. Now I am pondering beveling the te of the stab to get more elevator throw. I think the snaps and spins would really benefit from that change. I currently have alot more down elevator than I do up. I'd like to get it past 45 degrees up. More throw = more fun!
Posted on: 8/12/2009 10:56 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Okay, the incidence mod is done. Instead of using the tip of the ailerons (which are subject to change cuz of trim) I used the te of the wing as my baseline. I raised it 3/32 at that point. The stock meaurement from canopy deck to te (measured verticaly) was 2 5/16. It is now currently 2 7/32. I will get some flights in tomorrow nite to verify whether it is pass or fail. Cmoulder.......... for curiosity's sake, could you measure your incidence at that point and tell me what your's is? Thanks!
Posted on: 8/12/2009 12:25 AM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
[quote]ORIGINAL: gauravag Wow. Thats a long thread ! I just got this ARF, and not sure if i should use a Saito 125 or a Saito 100 on this. I would definately like enough power to do good knife edges ( and loops too ) and some 3D as well . Please suggest if 125 would be too much power, and if the 100 can do what i am looking for ? Thanks ! Gaurav [/quote] Saito 125.......... why not? Im all for the more the merrier philosiphy....... as long as prop torque don't make your aileron trim change too much.......do it!!
Posted on: 8/12/2009 12:21 AM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
[quote]ORIGINAL: cmoulder Stevo, I noticed during the first few flights that it flew with a funky nose-high attitude even though the CG was correct, and required a lot of elevator down trim to get it to fly level. Although I'm nothing more than a seat-of-the-pants aerodynamicist, I thought there was a wing/stab incidence problem, and since I couldn't modify the stab position, it seemed
Posted on: 8/5/2009 10:10 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
Cmoulder........ So I think I'm finally getting settled with the 1.20.......... close to getting the cg right..... but not quite. One problem which seems to be recurring with this airframe, regardless of engine size. Setting the cg on the tail heavy side makes her drag her tail. Bad. Worse than ANY tail heavy plane I have. I cant find a happy point yet...... but hopefully I will. Which seems to point me in the direction of your incidence change mod............... I need to know something before I change the incidence...... what characteristics did your two models have that made you do it and what were the results? Appreciate the info........thanks.
Posted on: 8/5/2009 1:36 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Building a Dynaflite Super Decathlon
This plane is built like a brick sh_thouse. It could definitley handle it. I agree with the firewall re-do....and DEFINTLEY the landing gear would not cut it, but other than that, it could handle it. Look at what they put da 50's on..... SUPER light laser cut airframes.......the decath is wayyyyy more than that. Would it be fun???? Thats up to the builder what he's looking for..... and btw, there was a bit of sarcasm in my first reply........
Posted on: 7/25/2009 9:39 AM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Building a Dynaflite Super Decathlon
Then put a DA 50 on it.
Posted on: 7/25/2009 9:08 AM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
The tank re-postition is completely reversible....I'll snap some photos so you know what I mean. All I have to do is advance the tank and trim the fuel line till Im satisfied with its position. I ran her up again in the backyard tonite to test exactly what your afraid of....... On a full tank, nose up has no effect on needle setting. Then I drained it to 1/4 tank and tried again. It did lean out with a nose up attitude. Not bad, but if I set the needle properly, I can find a balance where it's happy. I really wont know till real world testing for sure tho. Probably do some test flights tomorrow nite if the weather cooperates. The chances of it ever seeing 1/4 tank are very small. On my edge with the 1.20 I land with 1/3 tank after a 10 minute flight. I decided to take the pilot out of the canopy finally. You cant see him anyway with the window tint. I also cut the THICK balsa out of the back of the canopy. I think the canopy is now a pound lighter..... well maybe not that much but its definatley noticible.
Posted on: 7/23/2009 10:49 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
The cg is currently at 4 1/8". This is 5/8" foreward from factory spec. When I fill the tank in its current location it moves only about 3/16 inch foreward. Another quick note.............when I removed my cowl last nite to run the new fuel line, I had to also remove my needle valve extention. So I counted how many turns open I was before removal. AMAZINGLY it was only 1.5 turns open. I KNOW it is filthy rich at this setting, because I could see my smoke trail well against a cloudy dark sky. And it sucked that 16 oz tank dry in 10 minutes. Its been my experience that usually a rich setting is more than 2 turns, up to 3 before it starts to four stroke. So knowing this, it is my speculation that the 1.20 develops alot of tank pressure, hence the 1.5 turns open. So I believe (and hope) that the 1.20 will develop good enough pressure to deliver the fuel another 3 inches properly. I will do some nose high testing on the ground before I make this assumption though............. and AFTER I get a few more break in tanks through her.
Posted on: 7/23/2009 1:32 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
I didnt do enough flying to test what you said in your second paragraph............but I did do some thinking as to where the cg just might have been with the .90......... I always set my cg to factory specs initially. This plane is no exception. The BIG difference is that I added the header tank AFTER balance. Thats 2oz of fuel in the nose that never went away. I also never ran the plane past half empty. Id have to fly it for 15-20 minutes to suck a 16oz tank dry with that .90. So the cg must have been far more foreward than I had thought. It used to land dragging the tail a bit, but I think the extreme difference in fuel and cg point made all the difference in the world as to how it flies now. So heres what Ive done. I fueled up the plane (since thats where it flew good) and marked the cg. I then drained the tank, moved it back 3 1/2 inches to the wing tube. Then I brought the battery foreward to set the cg where it was marked with the tank full. I hope I can get by with having the tank farther back without causing a lean condition. I opened up the pressure nipple on the exhaust as far as safely possible. I also ran 1/8" line for the pressure line. I believe the 1.20 makes good enough pressure to push the fuel another 3 inches, but I guess we will see. I hope to do some more test flights on friday, so I can have some fun with her this weekend. I'll keep you posted.
Posted on: 7/23/2009 12:00 AM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
min$2crash.........this is my second one.... but the first one died last year in June.... not even 3 weeks old. Switch failure, I believe. Thanks for the compliments!! This one I have been flying since July of last year. I agree about the ax mufflers too. A guy in the club modified his stock muffler and TOTALLY killed the power of that motor. Made it like a .90 or less. So I did get the maiden in tonite between rain showers. Mainly wanted to get some more rich tanks through it. Motor ran well, even being rich. I kept her on low rates so I would behave and concentrate on just flying the pattern to get the fuel through it. Ill start to wring her out after I get at least 5 good rich tanks through her. I also went through the linkages and made sure all was well in that department.... thanks cmoulder for the reminder. All went well..... except the cg is just a mess. Cmoulder this is aimed at you, I'd like your opinion on this one......... I set my cg at 120mm EXACTLY, which is almost 4.75 inches..... without fuel of course. I run a 16 oz tank in the nose, and the header tank is now gone. So I fueled her up, and got her off the ground. Did a few quick trim adjustments and had her straight and level at 1/3 throttle. Air was completely dead, so easy to trim and check out a few things. First I played with power on and off, to check up and down thrust angles (which is currently zero). The aircraft maintained a straight and level path when at wot or at a low throttle setting (not idle). Good there. Then I rolled to inverted to check cg, and I only had to maintain a slight bit of down elevator to hold it. As I continued to fly out the tank, she started to drag her tail, more and more, like a dog does when.....well you know. Anyway it just continued to get progressively worse. It got so bad that at a low power setting it would just pitch the nose up until it stalled. I brought it in for landing, and lets just say it was a bit tricky even without wind. I had to keep power on and push the nose down to keep her level. Total crap. I refueled and took her up again to try landing with a full tank, and it was just fine...... hmmmm I said...... I made the horrible mistake when I tore out the old engine..... I didnt check ANYTHING.... cg, thrust angles, nothing. I was in too much of a hurry to get started. So I have no idea where my cg was set at before. Anyway, when it was flying around dragging its tail, I was thinking about your incidence change on the wing........ This case seems more like a bad cg placement to me. I brought the plane home and I checked cg with a full tank of fuel. It came in at about 4 1/8 inches..... about 5/8 more foreward than the book calls for. I really think the way to go with this is to set the cg at 4 1/8, DRY, and I might even try to bring the tank back against the wing tube, to minimize the effect on cg later in flight. I will run 1/8 line to be sure not to restrict fuel supply. Im still debating on the incedence change though. The plane used to fly much better later in the tank of fuel..... but I never usually got below half and now I can suck it dry with a rich 1.20. It still used to drop its tail though on landing, but nowhere this bad. So what do you think? Wouldnt the incidence change worsen this? You are raising the te of the wing, which is already high in relationship to the fuse when landing.......you've done it though, so it must work. I just dont quite understand the mechanics of it...........could you explain it a bit? Btw, sorry about the novel.... I hate super long posts as much as the next guy..............
Posted on: 7/21/2009 11:55 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Seagull Edge 540 - 68
Try a 15x6 to start.... make sure you properly break in the motor and run it rich for a good number of flights before you do any testing. You will have to turn a minimum of 9000 rpm to provide adaquate thrust for what you are looking. Xoar props have worked well for me. Try playing with different props from there. 16x4 will give you good thrust but your pitch speed wil be VERY slow. ........... 14x7 ????? I dont know. Buy a digital fish scale (about $20 at walmart) and do static thrust tests on the ground with a strap around the stab connected to your fish scale. Its not 100% accurate, but it will get you close.
Posted on: 7/18/2009 7:06 AM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Seagull Edge 540 - 68
You will hover, but you will have minimal throttle control with it. You will have to push the nose over to get out.....ot fall into a knife edge. I hate to burst your bubble, but take the .91 back and buy a 1.20 ax. It makes the plane. You wont regret it. And it fits COMPLETELY inside the cowl, even using the power box muffler it comes with. Awesome power and a clean look.
Posted on: 7/18/2009 12:25 AM by Author "stevo revo"
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RE: Phoenix Extra 330S 60-90 Size
So the work is done. The 1.20 is in!!! I took a few shots for comparison's sake between the .90 and 1.20. As you can see it needed a bit of firewall modification to fit the ax muffler. I have had good luck on my edge with the muffler so I didnt wanna throw down another $60-$70 on a pitts muffler that I didnt feel was needed. Balancing this monster was a bit of an issue, I ended up with the 5 cell AA rx pack in the tail.... I mean..... if it was any farther back it would be in the rudder. I actually installed it with a bit of surgery. I opened up the bottom of the fuse between the tailwheel block and the elevator servos, and pushed in some foam and stuck her in. I capped it off by ca'ing the original piece back in and then covered it up with a scrap of blue I cut out from behind the canopy. I ran a break in tank thru her in the yard this evening. The next chance I will be able to get to the field to try her out will be tuesday. So no maiden report till then! Im just glad I got it in finally!!!
Posted on: 7/15/2009 10:33 PM by Author "stevo revo"
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