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RE: Airtronics sd-10g-super OR Futaba 8fg
The servo issues is simply a truth in advertising issue. The reality is that a lot of analog servos work just fine with the FHSS-3 Rx's (10ch and now a new 6 & 8ch FHSS-3 Rx also). What's more, the analog servos that DON'T work well, also don't work well with the futaba Rx. Bottom line is that the newer, fast, 2.4 radio's don't work well with the older, slow analog servos. Any brand that's using a fast frame rate will have that. I fly Airtronics so I'm biased toward the SD10, but I'll concur with what was previously said. Go try them. Both are great radios. I find the SD10 easier to program, but that may also be my familiarity with all of the Airtronics radios. Another point to consider though is Receiver costs. If you're going to be using one radio for a lot of planes, the ATX receivers tend to be quite a bit less expensive than the Futaba's.
Posted on: 9/9/2012 9:52 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Radios, Transmitters, Receivers, Servos, gyros"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11222782
RE: 94772's jittering in ailerons
Sit tight. I just finished testing the 94747 - A direct replacement for the 746's and they rock. They've toned them down for aircraft use (these were originally set up for surface cars which is why they were so tight) and they don't jitter at all. I had the exact same experience with the 746's and communicated to them that they were unusable for the pattern market. And low and behold they listened and the 747's were born. 90oz of torque, <.09 transit time (these are the preliminary specs) and they were ROCK solid. Weight was good too at 1.6oz. Not sure when you'll see them on the market but soon I suspect. I also tried the new 94770's which were also very solid. 150+ oz/in of torque and equally fast. Again, toned down a little to avoid the jitters on our light ailerons. Low current draw in flight from both of these servos. These are full standard size cases and weight 2.1 oz so a little heavier. Both would be great aileron choices and the 770's would make a good single elevator servo. I believe the 770's are starting to ship now.
Posted on: 8/30/2012 10:18 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "Airtronics Support Forum"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11211637
RE: SNAP-ROLL ON AIRTRONICS SD-10G
To BJR... Yeah, it doesn't work if you fly a soft elevator. My snap elevator is the same throw as my regular flying. Rodrigo - I'm not sure how much detail you need but I'll start here. Setup TWO flight conditions with your snap rates. (You can also simply use your Triple rates, but you'll need both rate2 and rate3 to be your snap rates, so it's usually easier to use flight conditions) Then set up two stick switches... SS1 and SS2. Set SS1 to turn ON at 90% left Aileron. Set SS2 to turn ON at 90% Right Aileron. Then set one of your Snap flight condition FC1 to turn on with a normal switch AND SS1. And the other flight condition FC2 to turn on with same same switch AND SS2. What you'll end up with is when the switch is off, you'll have normal rates for the entire throw of the stick. When the switch is on, you'll get your snap rates when you aileron stick exceeds 90% in either direction. If you need to get into your snap rate quicker, then set the stick switch values to be lower...like 60%. Hope this helps. -M
Posted on: 7/9/2012 6:11 PM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11149327
RE: SNAP-ROLL ON AIRTRONICS SD-10G
Help me understand what you mean by "Better Performance". My current setup uses two of the stick switches combined with a third switch. When the switch is "active" AND my sticks exceed 90% of aileron in either direction, my snap rates (for all channels) are engaged. This allows me to fly normally with normal throws, but still have a very aggressive snap setting. Is that what you mean?
Posted on: 7/9/2012 1:19 PM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11149010
RE: Airtronics users
Hey Coach, (Sorry... you only get so many chances in life to call someone "Coach" )... As stated here, you'll have no trouble using the FHSS-1 Rx's that you're familiar with from the RDS8000 with the SD10G. It supports both the FHSS1 and FHSS3 protocols. You'll find that both work very very well. The FHSS3 does have a very fast frame rate and in many cases the older analog servos have trouble so it's recommended to use all digital servos. That said, I have numerous older analog servos that I use with FHSS3 Rx's without a problem. The good news is that IF they don't work... they don't work. Meaning the failure is immediate and obvious, not something you have to worry about later on. If they work...they work. But to avoid the confusion, you'll see that Airtronics replaced their entire line of sport servos with comparably priced and performing digitals. But don't abandon any servo without trying it first. You'll really enjoy the SD10. As great as I think the RDS8000 is, the 10 is a giant leap in features and functionality not really found in any other similarly priced radio on the market, and it follows a similar, simple, programming methodology that makes it very user friendly. Good luck!!
Posted on: 6/5/2012 10:09 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Radios, Transmitters, Receivers, Servos, gyros"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11107373
RE: A loaded TX question
It's hard to answer without starting a brand war, so I'll simply say that the main manufacturers (Airtronics, Futaba, JR/Spektrum) all make good quality equipment. I'm partial to Airtronics so I can say with certainty that they still make an excellent radio and I think you'll find they're one of the most affordable, especially if you're looking at additional receiver prices. But you're hard pressed to go wrong with those 3. In the Airtronics line-up I'd look at the RDS8000 8ch radio. You'll be able to find it for about $200.
Posted on: 6/5/2012 5:25 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Radios, Transmitters, Receivers, Servos, gyros"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11107035
RE: Welcome Airtronics
Yikes! I'm hoping someone from Airtronics Tech jumps in here. Initially it sounds like you accidentally changed the mode your in (not heli - Aircraft, but mode 1 vs Mode 2 etc). And that would have it alarm since the throttle would be high all the time. But the EEr2 error I'm unfamiliar with. Maybe Jack with jump in here...
Posted on: 5/24/2012 7:24 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "Airtronics Support Forum"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11092956
RE: Welcome Airtronics
To Krashit (nice name BTW), an "EER2" problem?? Can you provide some more detail?
Posted on: 5/22/2012 5:37 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "Airtronics Support Forum"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11090149
RE: Signal loss with SD10 G
Send the Radio to Airtronics Service Airtronics Service 18480 Bandilier Circle Fountain Valley CA 92708 I would send them your complete description of events too. That said, this sounds very odd for ANY 2.4 system much less this one. I've never had so much as a glitch much less that kind of lock out due to radio interference. I did lose power to the Rx once...that was catastrophic. But never radio lockout like that. Send it in and see what they say. Good luck!!
Posted on: 5/10/2012 5:41 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "Airtronics Support Forum"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11075528
RE: researching a new radio
I'm also biased, but can very honestly say you won't go wrong with the SD10 and Airtronics in general. Of the three major brands, Atx has by far the lowest Rx prices. They do NOT have a hoard of knock off Rx's like Futaba and JR do, but you'll find more than a few comments on this site to make you wary of those Rx's. There's a lot of places to buy generic in this hobby, I'm not sure your radio gear is one of them. Congrats on getting back into the hobby and good luck!! If you do indeed get the SD10 and have any trouble programming it, don't hesitate to send me a PM. I'd be happy to help.
Posted on: 4/23/2012 5:32 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "Airtronics Support Forum"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11053233
RE: DX8 spectrum beware
Somewhat of a shameless plug, but if you're truly going to bail on the DX8, I'd HIGHLY suggest looking at the Airtronics SD-10G. More features, better programming, solid FHSS 2.4 technology, at about the same price, with additional Rx's being MUCH cheaper.
Posted on: 4/20/2012 3:17 PM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Radios, Transmitters, Receivers, Servos, gyros"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11050258
RE: Intermediate 402
It's close, but with a forced push at the top back into the box rather than the option to pull to the edge of the box. Fly it..you'll see the difference.
Posted on: 3/23/2012 8:15 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11011838
RE: Intermediate 402
#17 is one of the possible variants of the Hump w/ Options. But in the case of #17, you have to perform it as prescribed. The main issue is the MOST people will choose to pull over the top of a humpty, rather than push. Also, #9 allows you to use the maneuver cross box by doing a 1/4 roll up and down. #17 does not allow that option so the maneuver can not be used to adjust the depth of your line. Lastly, by forcing the push at the top, #17 leaves you much closer to the center of the box after your turn around which may or may not require you to use better box management. Make sense?
Posted on: 3/23/2012 7:42 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11011800
RE: No Representation
I feel, or should I say Felt your pain. For years I was the only guy in Ohio fly Atx. But the SD10 and the RDS8000 significantly changed that and the change is still occurring. Last pattern contest I went to 14 of the 28 competitors were flying the SD10. By far the single most represented radio in our district. Stay with the program! They'll eventually figure out what they're missing :)
Posted on: 3/6/2012 7:42 PM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "Airtronics Support Forum"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10989405
RE: NEW RADIO WANTED!
I'm biased, But I think you have to look at the Airtronics SD10g. 10 Channels, extremely complete programming, all 3 position switches, triple rates, everything assignable to everything (assign channels as well as assign all your switches or stick switches). Software upgradable, dedicated 2.4, heli has 10 predefined swashplates, 6 wing servo Sailplane setups and on and on. All for under $500. I've seen it as low at $379. -Mark
Posted on: 3/3/2012 5:07 PM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Radios, Transmitters, Receivers, Servos, gyros"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10985321
RE: INSIDE 8FG AND SD-10
I can't speak to the 8FG as I've never used one, though it's my understanding that my SD-10 has more functionality. Regardless, I'll simply say that my experience with the SD-10 gimbals has been excellent. I've been using one of the first SD-10's on the market for 3+ years now and they're very solid, and still very accurate. Prior to that I used a Stylus for 10+ years with equally excellent results. I've been very happy with Airtronics attention to the quality of the gimbals in their radios. I realize I have a biased view as one of their team pilots, but none the less I'm an extremely active flyer, my radios get a LOT of use, and they've held up extremely well.
Posted on: 2/22/2012 8:54 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Radios, Transmitters, Receivers, Servos, gyros"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10970687
RE: Idle up
Yes, that's correct. The speed controllers don't apply braking until the throttle is all the way down.
Posted on: 2/10/2012 2:48 PM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10953197
RE: Idle up
Um, both. I use the Idle up while I'm flying. I have it set to the "idle" speed that I want to maintain for stall turns, spins, etc. I flip the idle up off for landing (so i'm 'dead stick') as well as on long downlines when I want the braking engaged.
Posted on: 2/8/2012 11:09 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10949914
RE: Expo on new 10 G Tx
Positive expo is LESS sensitive around Neutral.
Posted on: 1/25/2012 5:06 PM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "Airtronics Support Forum"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10927731
RE: What wil JR do to match the 18MZ?
I would be surprised if any of the other manufacturer were to try and follow suit and create a similar product. There is a VERY limited market that truly "needs" the 18mz, and while there's a larger group of people that would want and can afford it simply to say they have it, that's still a very small number. Too small for multiple players to really be able to attack it. I'd be willing to bet that Futaba doesn't really ever break even on this product but merely uses it as a positioning product to maintain their high end status. It's clearly the high bar, but not terribly practical for all but a few. And at close to $3K, not feasable for many either. All that said... It's VERY cool. And yes, those of us that are loyal to other brands do have a tinge of jealousy.
Posted on: 1/14/2012 10:29 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Radios, Transmitters, Receivers, Servos, gyros"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10908471
RE: How many years do you stay at each class and why
ok, so if you're looking for averages, it's still a wide range, but I would go for: Sportsman - 1yr Intermediate - 2-3yrs Advanced - 2-4yrs Masters - 2-life. Come on up to D4. Last year we had several contests with 10 in Intermediate and 10 in Advanced. Top finishers in both finished top 5 at the Nats. Good classes. Just don't advance too fast. Most people regret that. Winning in each class gets progressively harder and requires a new higher level of commitment. More practice, more dedication, better performing and more reliable equipment. The room for error shrinks quickly. Unfortunately we've made it very difficult (both procedurally and culturally) to move back if you make that mistake.
Posted on: 1/3/2012 5:27 PM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10890309
RE: Iota DLS-55 questions
Verne, I'm working really really hard not to take that out of context....
Posted on: 1/3/2012 12:12 PM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10889728
RE: How many years do you stay at each class and why
This will sound sort of stupid, but the bottom line is... it depends on your goals. Everyone's goal is to have fun. But what is "fun" for one person is different for another. Fun for me has changed over the years. When I was younger, fun was being competitive. That meant learning everything there was to learn at each level. BY DEFINITION, that means flying in a class until you're winning. It's not just learning the maneuvers, but learning how to win. It's being prepared, mechanically, mentally, etc. It's learning the maneuvers, but it's also learning the presentation. Learning what scores. Learning to calm your nerves. Learning ALL conditions... You get the idea. Now... 20 years later, FUN is still being competitive, but beating Andrew isn't in the cards, so fun is also learning new things, trying new equipment, improving every season, and socializing with now life long friends who share my love of this hobby. Long answer to a short question. But if your goal is to be competitive, than I would suggest not moving up until you're winning consistently in your region, and are "in the hunt" at the nats. Else there is clearly still something to learn in that class.
Posted on: 1/3/2012 11:31 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10889651
RE: Iota DLS-55 questions
Hey Joe, Mine uses 30amp "blade" fuses. I'm surprised your blowing a breaker. At max output that should only be pulling about 8amps from a 110v circuit. Are you sure there isn't a lot of other stuff already on that circuit? Are you plugging it in without a load attached (I hope)?
Posted on: 1/2/2012 10:55 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10887864
RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
Greg, Check out www.NSRCA.us There is a ton of information out there including the Sportsman schedule (and all the other sequences as well).
Posted on: 1/2/2012 9:33 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10887752
RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
Can we put this thread back on track? Everette, no offense intended, but you have a habit of derailing the topic of a thread to serve your own agenda. Can you simply start a new thread with that thought? The integrated rolling manuever conversation is a good one... but it's worthy of it's own discussion. So what other pattern resolutions are out there??
Posted on: 1/1/2012 5:48 PM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10886782
RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
To form a closer bond with the "Rolling Loop". They hate me, I hate them. We need to get to know one another better.
Posted on: 1/1/2012 8:11 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10885946
RE: Stylus - throttle channel issue
Sounds like you have a bad stick pot. Did this suddenly go bad? Does it work this way on every model, or just one? If it across multiple model memories then you're going to need to send it in I think.
Posted on: 12/12/2011 12:46 PM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "Airtronics Support Forum"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10856059
RE: Pass Port
Ditto what Arch said.
Posted on: 11/17/2011 7:11 AM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10816283
RE: Airtronics rds 8000 Charging Question
The two lights on the charger are for the RX and TX (assuming we have the same charger...mine's is several years old). They stay red. The red light simply tells you that the Rx or Tx is connected and charging. These are slow chargers, so while I don't actually recommend it, you could leave these on for a VERY long time without doing any damage. If you plug the Tx side into the Tx you'll see the other red light go on.
Posted on: 11/12/2011 7:44 PM by Author "ArchNemesis"
in the forum "RC Radios, Transmitters, Receivers, Servos, gyros"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10809232
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