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RE: WACO YMF
Hi gents, it´s rather easy. On my Waco you have the bars inside the fuselage just going from the front to the aft a bit below the cut out for the cockpit. So this main bar is your reference plain you are looking for. This bars (rh and lh) should be in parallel to your building board. Now you may start to measure the angle of the wings. Measure just before where the ailerons start (looking from the fuselage to the wing tip) as the measurement close to the fuselage where the short ribs are will of course give you to a wrong result. Do the same for the upper wing. Once again the angles should be 0° degrees for the lower wing and minus 1° to minus 2° degrees for the upper wing. The horizontal stab should have plus 2° which is leading edge higher than trailing edge. This will give you the best flight performance. These are the angles I am recommending also in the building instructions, which was the result of more than 15 years of flight experience with my Waco. All over the world people did build it like that since than and no one ever claimed for problems with the models flight performance. Kr Peter Brother #170
Posted on: 5/18/2012 7:17 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Tom, your AoAs of the wings and elevator a definitely wrong. The lower wing should have an AoA of 0° degrees which is correct, the upper should have minus 1° to 2° and the elevator should have an AoA of plus 2° (which is nose up). The CG should be about 20mm in front of the aft center strut assuming the strut has been installed according to my design. Also it seems to me a bit heavy normally with your installed equipment it should weigh in at about 23Kgs which should be about 51pds. But the 6 additional pds do not have any influence to the flight performance only the min. speed will be higher but that's ok. You might not get her to a stand still in the air during a slight windy day. I hope this helps. I hope your Waco has the original air foil I am using respectively provided in the kit. Believe me its worth to repair the ship if all is correct it has a second to none flight performance and very easy to fly with no bad habits. Do not hesitate to contact me if you have some more questions. I do not provide plans without kit but if you need you may order spare parts. KR Peter
Posted on: 5/17/2012 4:09 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
To All, we visited the WRAM show which was for me the first time joining a trade show in the USA. Learned a lot of things how the US modelers are going for and got a lot of new ideas and hints. What I missed was a Waco built from my kit. As we are already booked for the Toledo Weak signal show I would appreciat if one of you could bring in a Waco build from my kit eaven better would be to have also a ARC Waco from my kit so I could explain / show how easy the new version will build. Any one available to show his Waco? Peter Broth #170
Posted on: 3/5/2012 1:54 PM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Rich, sent me a PM I can send you at least the first 12 pages of my translation which might be a bit more helpful than the google translation. You are invited to provide me suport to brush up the English translation because I am not a native speaker also comments to the instructions where to give more or better explanation is very welcome. Peter Brother #170
Posted on: 2/11/2012 2:07 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Rich, I like your Waco how long did it take you to get to this stage? Peter brother #170
Posted on: 2/9/2012 12:39 PM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Pete, we could built you one if you want to subcontract the item. Full scale none flyable Waco bipe Waco YMF5. When would you need it and how much would you pay? Peter #Brother 170
Posted on: 2/8/2012 9:51 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi tmac, when I remeber correctly you were one of the last to receive the previous version of the third scale Waco. The current version is completely different as the fuselage is built from light ply instead from the balsa stick construction you have. Unfortunately the translation for the latest version is not completly ready. I am working on it but as you may know I am not a native speaker but I think it would help. I try to have the translationready for the WRAM trade show which I will join end of this month. 1/3 has been already transfered into English. So please be patient its only two more weeks to go. On my flight to New York I hope to do the rest. Peter #brother 170
Posted on: 2/7/2012 10:58 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Tom, thrust to the right is about 1,5 degrees thrust down about 2 to 2,5 degrees CoG is about 1 inch on upper wing center section in front of the aft center wing strut. Best regards Peter Brother #170
Posted on: 1/23/2012 1:26 PM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Rich, Anthony, I am using two receiver 2,4GHz. Both have two receiver so in total 4 receiver are doing there job. They have a soft ware which always checks which incomming signal is the best. The best signal will be used. I have also two batteries and the transmitter sends on two different "channels" (frequence hopping). So there is a lot of redundance in the system. There is also a telemetrie system available. If you have the relevant transducers you will be informed about nearly every thing. Voltage and signal received are a basic information which is pre-installed. All the rest velocity, engine temperatur, engine current, hight, rate of climb, etc.,etc. may be also measured and transmitted via a back chanel down to your transmitter and by blue tooth to a smart phone. Peter brother #170
Posted on: 1/15/2012 2:05 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Anthony, I am using the same type of servos on my Waco and I am recommending the same for the third scale kit. The only difference is that I am using only two servos for the aileron and a stronger servo for the ruder as you have also the stear the tail wheel and if you fly knife edge the laod my be a bit too high for the HS645MG. Peter #170
Posted on: 1/14/2012 4:55 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Chris, what's the difference in weight compared to my landing gear. I have already designed your version of landing gear but in the first place being to expensive to be part of the kit (to many parts to be milled and assembled) the weight specially here in Germany was an issue (only 25 kgs take off weight are permitted). Do you have springs inside the main fwd. tubes? I was thinking of that too. Peter
Posted on: 12/30/2011 2:29 PM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy New Year to all of you and your families. No crashes and a lot of nice flights alll followed by a smoooooooooth landing. Peter #Brother 170
Posted on: 12/24/2011 8:05 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Dan, great sound I love it. Peter
Posted on: 12/15/2011 12:34 PM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Angel, you should have made trips through Germany it is realy a nice country as yours is. The nature in the US is overwelming. 2006 we made a trip along the west coast and 2010 along the east coast. Several national parks as you may imagine were on our route and of course aircraft museums. Close to our school there was an airforce station, no airfield but just some houses. During the breaks we went there and had burgers not very known in Germany at that time. When I was a student we visited the NCO club which was always a high light when we mad it to get in. Good to dance and listen to the USA bands and singers. Great time. Peter
Posted on: 11/26/2011 2:24 PM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Angel, just to improve your German: Ich spreche auch kein Deutsch, aber ich mag deutsche Mädchen. Peter
Posted on: 11/25/2011 2:35 PM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi John, but my translater tells me that baldachin is an English word. I would be interested if it is in your dictionary. My be it's only English but not American. But all in all you are right it is to install the upper wing mid section for the correct ajustment of the AoA respec. to determine the length of the cabane struts. Peter # brotherhood 170
Posted on: 11/25/2011 2:31 PM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Rob, the Waco build thread shows the previous version of the Waco. The new latest version is quite different as the internal sturcture is concerned. Now we have all the interal structure of the fuse CNC cut from light ply. Main building plane side walls and and frames are made of light ply. There are cut outs where all the parts fit together with tight tolerances. So the fuselage is build quite fast and what is even more important absolutely acurate in line. It is hard or even impossible to build a twisted or in some other way distorted fuselage. For the baldachin there is a gage with it so even this does not cause any trouble. Peter
Posted on: 11/25/2011 9:01 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Paul, there might be the cahnce to go to Toledo too, but it will be only me at the stand of my US distributor teamaeroscale. He will offer the kits, if he will have a completely build Waco to be presented I do not know. To bring a model with me to USA might be a bit expensive and the risk of getting it damaged is high. Peter
Posted on: 11/23/2011 10:58 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Mitch, götz will be there definitely. He will have a stand there and the idea is to be withim for one or two days to give him support as far as my kits are concerned and to answer questions. I think I have made my mind up already as one of important things is the rate for the flight. New York is a cheap place to go as far as flight rates are concerned. Due to the number of passengers flying to NY and the big airplanes rates can be low. So if you come to the trade show we could meet there may be some of the brothers want to see me also. Best regards Peter
Posted on: 11/23/2011 10:04 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Gents, thanks for your info. I amclose to decide to got to NY as this is not so expensive to get to from Germany. Peter Brother#170
Posted on: 11/22/2011 1:36 PM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Dear All, I am planning to go to the WRAM or Toledo trade show in 2011. Which one is the better more intresting one in terms of Scale Aircraft? Any thoughts, recommendations. Peter Brother# 170
Posted on: 11/22/2011 11:43 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Barry, thanks for the info. No one up to now did realize that there are brass nails with the kit but not mentioned either in the building instruction nor in the dwgs. The nails are though to be a substitute for the simaulated rivets at the aileron. When you install the hinges you may make use of the nails to fasten the hinges. For this you will have to remove the simulated rivets in the area the hinges are installed. Two nails for every hinge. Best regards Peter brother #170
Posted on: 11/20/2011 5:34 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Chris, was it you who was asking for the aluminium strut fairing? I have sent this part to the US already but to the wrong address. The consignee told me to ship this part to the right address. So if you were looking for this aluminum fairing I could manage that it will show up at your place. The engine cowling is currently a problem. Even I still wait for my manufacturer to deliver the glass fiber items. Goetz has currently only a few kits fully equipped with the glass fiber parts, the rest is waiting also for the glass fiber parts to come. The have been promised to show up mid to end of this month at my place. Peter Brother #170
Posted on: 10/14/2011 12:34 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
All, my US distributor did sell a kit in which we packed unfortunately a small strut fairing as it should be and a 3mm nut was missing. The customer already claimed by mail the wrong part. To increase the mishaps I did sent the substitutes to someone else. My last hope is that the customer who claimed the wrong part is one of us brothers. Please let me know so I will inform the guy who has received the part to ship it to the right address. Thanks Peter Brother #170
Posted on: 10/6/2011 11:10 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Chris, sorry for that. We changed the size of the fairings to enable the installation of the screws keeping the fairing in place sure below the main bar. I will sent you the correct part and the nut. Sent me a PM with your address. As far as the cowling is concerned we are waiting for our supplier to deliver the next bunch. They are expected to be available end of this month. I will have to ship any way some of these items to Vogelsang so I will add you cowling to the others. Sorry for the inconvenience Peter
Posted on: 9/16/2011 9:30 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Barry, there are three possibilities to have access to the interior. First ist the hatch behind the cockpit below the turtle deck. I am using this for the servos (at least for the elevator and the rudder). The receiver may be placed on the bottom of the cockpit below the pilots seat if you intend to install a pilots seat. Before the cockpit in the fwd area there is a large ply cover, simulating the fwd. cockpit. The cover is screwed to the ply sheeting of the fwd fuselage. You may find this cover on the large ply sheets in the kit. It is more or less a circle which a section cut off. Thru this cover you may install the tank and battery. If you think this is not enough you may make use of the side access doors aft of the fire wall. This is not described in the plan but could be easily manufactured by yourself. Enjoy building and if there are more questions please do not hesitate to contact me via this block. I may enter it form time to time. Best regards Peter # Brother 170
Posted on: 9/15/2011 9:58 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
P.S. Rich, if there are still some open issues please do not hesitate to contact me via this forum or by PM (FMBB-Barth@t-online.de). Peter #170
Posted on: 8/23/2011 10:11 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Rich, sorry for not yet providing the English version of the building instructions I am still working on the translation. But 4 sheets of plan are correct. We have no top view of the fuse as the installation of the light ply parts which are forming the fuselage are very selfe explaining and there is now chance to install them in a false way. Once having assembled the main parts the side view of the fuse is enough for installing the residual parts. There are also some pictures in the manual where you may have a look at to see how the parts will be assembled. I hope to have finalized the English version of the instructions soon. Best regards Peter
Posted on: 8/23/2011 10:08 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Chris, that you have to shorten the piano wire struts is normal. I do not exact measure the length of the wires. They are cut from 1 Meter parts and so the last one may be longer than the first wires. I leave the last wire pieces as long as they come out so it is absolutely normal that you may have to shorten the wires. May be you have got three end pieces so you have to shorten three a bit longer than the the one which has not to be cut to length. But any way you must ajust the length at least be moving the brass tubes up / down the reach the correct AoA for the upper wing. Peter
Posted on: 8/20/2011 10:57 AM by Author "FMBB"
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RE: WACO YMF
Hi Robert, sorry but my English is not as that good for such special words so I had to look it up in the dic.. With wire strand I mean several very small wires twisted together forming a thicker wire. That's what I use in the kits. That works quite well but is not absolutely scale. The original type of "wire" is aerodynamically shaped as we all know. I use a flat wire but only to be more close to scale not for stress or other reasons. But useing this flat wire you have to silver solder threaded ends or some else devices on it to allow to accomodate for the turnbuckels. The advantage of the twissted wires string is that you may easy roll it up after disassy of the model to stow it away. The flat wires are no way to bent it so you have another part to pay attenton to when transporting the model. Peter brother #170
Posted on: 8/2/2011 1:54 AM by Author "FMBB"
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