RE: Power supply reccomendation needed.
Regular old PC power supply. Easy to hack, and you can get em for next to nothing or even free from the repair shops and such. I have a pair of em. One runs 2 Astro 109 chargers, and the other my regular cell charger.
Posted on: 5/18/2013 11:45 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "E-Flight Power Sources"
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RE: EP Falcon rolling at take off ?
Down and to the right is to compensate for the prop trying to lift the nose and shove it to the left. Absolutely normal. And have to agree with reelquick, sounds like a text book stall on take off. Too slow for flight and the prop twists the plane to the left (port for you boaters) When this happens, natural instinct is to apply right aileron. All this does is make the stall even worse, as the left aileron drops and causes more drag on that side. All you can do is apply right rudder to try and compensate for the left roll.
Posted on: 9/14/2012 11:12 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "Electric Training"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11228499

RE: Binding
2 for aileron, ONE for elevator, ONE for rudder. Ailerons would go on a Y cable. Just like it sounds, cable looks like a Y. Plug each aileron servo lead into the short legs of the Y, the long leg goes to your rx. On most systems, other then JR/Spektrum, ailerons go to #1 slot on the rx, elevator to #2, motor/esc to #3, and rudder to #4. Almost sounds like you have the rudder plugged into the aileron channel.The ailerons and elevator are on the same stick, rudder and throttle on the opposite one.
Posted on: 9/14/2012 11:00 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "Electric Training"
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RE: Battlefield Factory Smoke Test
Don, not to hijack the thread, but have you considered building a smoker? Not much to them. Found a build thread a while back on one from a r/c truck forum when I was looking at smoke for my 1/6th Stuart. Need lots of smoke for it. I'm going to give it a try and see what happens, I have most of the stuff laying around. http://www.scale4x4rc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=25024
Posted on: 9/11/2012 8:32 PM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
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RE: Battlefield Factory Smoke Test
Nice job indeed! Thinking back to my youth and the steel mills I grew up around, it looks pretty real. Now if you can train some flies to act like the pigeons that always tend to roost in those places you'd have it nailed.[:D]
Posted on: 9/7/2012 11:35 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
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RE: Comic book Stuart
While I'm posting, I'm a complete newbie on sound systems. I did rig the stock board to work but it was a PITA! (see pic) I know there's got to be something simpler out there, I just don't have a clue as to what to use or how to do it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Posted on: 8/30/2012 5:50 PM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
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RE: T-34 Calliope (anyone have a good picture source ?)
Big Mig, is this going to go on a Sherman or one of your Stuarts? The Stu had a similar system in development, the T39 launcher.
Posted on: 8/30/2012 5:34 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
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RE: Comic book Stuart
Perry here you go, a shot of the cannon internals. All steel and brass.[;)] Motor has replaceable brushes so it should run quite a while. And yeah forgot the decimal point, they are .20 gram shells Seems to take the sand quite easily, even deep grass and such doesn't slow it down. I installed a set of brass bushings on the idlers as they're prone to wear. Even had no problem ripping through the wet stuff after Ivan passed through, all internals were bone dry afterwards. She's not much of a light tank anymore, she's pushing 80 pounds now. As for the Red Barron, no worries there. Look a little higher, Snoopy is at his 12, sitting in his Camel ready to pounce.[:D]
Posted on: 8/29/2012 12:30 PM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11210518

Comic book Stuart
I blame BigMig for all this.[:D] I took a perfectly good 1/6th Stuart and went bonkers on it. Made up my own version of what Jeb Stuart should have had to battle the kitty kats with, the "Haunted Tank". Yanked all the stock electronics, in went a Sabertooth 12 dual esc, and a HobbyKing 6 channel rx. Added a pair of servo operated switches to fire the main gun( more on that in a bit) and to operate the turret. Not too bad, made it proportional speed wise. Slipped the battery to the center for better balance, and fully water proofed it up to the turret. Then cut apart all the lamps to install SuperBright LED's fore and aft. Even made up a fully adjustable spot lamp for it. Perfect finish and tracks had to go, so they got the full rust treatment, what a comic book tank back from the grave should look like. Onto giving Jeb and edge in his battles with Hitler's best. Said bye bye to the silly 37mm, and slammed in a 120 smooth bore. It's actually a custom built one off full metal Airsoft gun, no cheapy plastic for this one. The gun weighs 5 pounds by itself, and has a heavy sniper barrel added to it. Can fire off singles or empty the magazine of 40 rounds in 30 seconds. Took the original Stuart barrel and lengthened it with brass tubing. Fires at 400 FPS, and has a range of around 150 feet with a 20 gram ball. Has servo operated elevation, and when it fires it needs no sound effect. Dang thing shakes the tank without any added recoil action. It's comic book authentic so anything goes. Has a laser sight mounted in the mantle, controlled by the tx. And a color video system mounted above the cannon, with a range finder that can be turned on or off remotely. And since it's the Haunted Tank, it has to have a Rebel flag flying off the antenna. Poor Jeb has been around so long he's nothing but bones. All built from bits and pieces from the scrap box. But he's got a set up now that put fear into anything it faces. Here Kitty Kitty Kitty.[:D]
Posted on: 8/27/2012 8:31 PM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
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RE: 1/6 stuart with (4) scratch built recoilless rifles ( With
Looks great!!! Really nice job on it. Wait till you see what I did with mine. Will have the perfectionists calling for blood.
Posted on: 8/27/2012 8:02 PM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
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RE: Paint on ztz-99
Welcome to the wonderful world of paint. NOT![:D] Take it from someone who's been in the automotive paint business for a long long time. There are so many things that a painter alone can do to change the color/hue of a paint. Let alone what the paint factory does. I used to have a poster in the shop showing one day's run of Chevy pickups from the factory. Same primer, same paint, same conditions, same robots squirting the paint. All the same color... well kinda. If you looked close from the beginning to the end, they were different "shades" of the same color. If you had parked the first and last next to each other you would have been shocked at how different they were. Funny just reminded me of something. Someone once questioned Carrol Shelby about the "Guards Blue" color that was used on his Cobras. They wanted to match the paint on one they were restoring. Carrol kinda laughed at em. He said Guards Blue was what ever they had laying around the shop that day, if they didn't have enough of one, they'd just mix a couple of cans of different blues together to make enough to paint the car. [;)]
Posted on: 8/23/2012 3:14 PM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
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RE: The origins of Heng Long tank designs
Heck you folks only are dealing with two companies and who may have or may not have copied one another. Take a trip over to the electric aircraft side some time. I can show you the same plane from multiple manufacturers. The same motor with copies of the copies of the copies. Heck some of them are so blatant they just stick their labels over the other guys. Yeah they may scrimp here and there, but sometimes it's actually the other way around. I've had Chinese ARF's that were better built then the ones they supposedly copied. Lipo batteries, there are if I remember correctly less then half a dozen manufactures, yet how many brands are out there. I run 2.4 in many of my planes and my one (so far) tank. Why would I spend 50+ for a Spektrum rx, when I can grab the same animal from Hobby King for under 10? They have their place, as stated, for many it's the only way they could afford to get into a hobby. Is what they do wrong? yeah, but if we didn't buy them they wouldn't be in business. If you want something to think about, hopefully you won't experience what is happening with some of the aircraft kits, and the manufacturers of the real thing. For example Lockheed has put the hammer down on anyone copying the WWII P-38 Lightning and others, and has so for some time. To produce a replica of it you must pay a licensing fee to Lockheed and a per unit fee. Lockheed has their own group of folks (EMI)who's sole purpose it to track down any type of copying, of "their" design. And not just r/c, they are even going after artistic representations. Horizon put out a P-38 a while back, and right there on the box was the "licensed by Lockheed". Just Google what Lockheed is doing. And hopefully your tank companies don't follow suit, or you will be at best paying for the right to model something or worse not see it available due to the kit folks not being or wanting to pay the fees. Here's one from right here on RCU, from way back in 05. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2672713/anchors_2695992/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#2695992 Or how bout one right from one of the model makers. http://www.djaerotech.com/index1.html Funny I bought a Cessna 337 to build about a year ago. When it showed every and I mean every reference to "Cessna" were gone. The lettering on the box was blacked out, ditto the build manual. Heck they even went as far as cutting out Cessna on the decal sheets. Be happy with what you have, a choice. Some day you may not have one.[;)]
Posted on: 8/15/2012 9:14 PM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11195306

RE: Cameras on tanks
If you aren't bothered by it being scale so to say, go with what I'm using on my Stuart. A barrel/turret mounted search lamp like on this M60 to hide your camera. This will give you 360 degree view instead of just what's in front of you. That way you can check your six for a Tigger sneaking up on you.[:D] I picked up my system at the local auto parts store's clearance table. It's a 12 volt wireless back up camera. Slick system, monitor can flip the view 360 degrees in 90 degree increments so camera can be mounted pretty much as you need it and still have a normal view. Adjustable color, contrast, brightness. And the winner, it's got a range finder you can turn on and off. Camera runs off the main pack, monitor uses a tiny 3S lipo. Unlike Pattoncommander's war realistic Stuart, mine is comic book realistic so it doesn't matter. I doing mine up like the "Haunted Tank", and took all the comic book liberties I could. Jeb and the boys are going in armed to the teeth. 120mm auto loading smooth bore (high powered Air Soft) with gyro stabilization and a laser sight. May even toss in the T39, 7.2 rocket launcher system.[:D]
Posted on: 8/8/2012 5:19 PM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11186178

RE: ESC or Motor problem?(video)
[quote]ORIGINAL: DCSouthwind Thanks! I checked the wiring and found the blue wire unplugged between the motor and ESC. Plugged it back in and now it works. [/quote] Yep, that will do it.[:D]
Posted on: 8/8/2012 3:33 PM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "E-Flight Power Sources"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11186061

RE: Prop nuts Help!
Got a picture of your set up? Might be a little easier if I can see what you're up against to try and help you out.
Posted on: 8/8/2012 3:30 PM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "Brushed/Brushless motors, speed controls, gear drives"
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RE: X - UAV B17
Doug, a little help from you would help us help you. Maybe a link to your purchase. A photo would be nice too.[;)]
Posted on: 8/8/2012 3:06 PM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "Electric General Discussion"
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RE: ESC or Motor problem?(video)
What you are experiencing is called "cogging". You have one phase of the motor out of sync with the other two. Those three leads going to the motor from the esc are what power so to say your phases of the motor. Kinda like spark plugs in an engine, each has to fire in order, for the motor to spin. I doubt that it's a timing problem, though it is easy enough to check. You should have paperwork on the esc that tells you how to program it. If not let us know what esc you have, and we can find the info for you. But meanwhile back to your problem. You have a bad/poor connection on one of the three leads going to the motor. First though a piece of advice. DO NOT KEEP TRYING TO RUN IT THIS WAY! Yep I'm yelling. Cogging is a dead short occurring. Keep trying to get it to run like this and you will eventually fry the motor and or esc. Go though every connection, esc and motor looking for a bad solder joint, or broken lead, that's what's causing your problem. If need be, resolder every connection. Each solder point should look clean and shiny. Dull or dirty looking and you have a cold solder joint, as in bad connection. If any of this seems too much for you, stop, do not proceed. Get on the phone to Horizon, if this is their ready to fly or almost ready to fly version, hands down the best customer service out there. Tell em what is happening, and more then likely they'll be able to get you fixed up. Best of luck.
Posted on: 8/8/2012 5:15 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "E-Flight Power Sources"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11185312

RE: Prop nuts Help!
A little late, but another item I see when folks have this trouble using a collet adapter is that they didn't make a relief cut in the back of the prop. Look real close at your collet as you slip the prop on, if it doesn't fall flat against the collar on it's own, it's binding at the part where the collet comes through the collar. That part of the collet is slightly larger in diameter then the actual shaft. And what happens is the prop bottoms out on it before it is fully seated on the collar. If you ever notice after you remove the prop nut that you have to pull on the prop or wiggle it to get it started to remove it, you got this problem. It's hung up on that little bit of the collet. Just take a prop reamer and open up the back of the prop hole to a slightly larger diameter, usually only need about 1/16" in depth to clear the collet.
Posted on: 8/8/2012 4:52 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "Brushed/Brushless motors, speed controls, gear drives"
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RE: High Performance Tracked Vehicle Based on the RIPSAW
And may not be electric powered but check out the You Tube videos of the Honda powered 1/6th Stuart for some ideas.
Posted on: 8/1/2012 7:16 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11177099

RE: 1/6 stuart with (4) scratch built recoilless rifles ( With "LASER SIGHTS" )
Very nice! Kinda has a futuristic look to it now. Would be quite a surprise for an unsuspecting Tiger. [:D] Krylon Camo Green in a spray can is a pretty close match to the stock color. Make sure you get video of it in action!
Posted on: 7/30/2012 7:22 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
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RE: 1/6 stuart with (4) scratch built recoilless rifles ( With "LASER SIGHTS" )
Looking good! Really like the set up on the reload/unload mechanism. Thinking you could incorporate a counter balance ala the P-38, like it had on the elevator.
Posted on: 7/28/2012 7:52 PM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
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RE: 1/6 stuart with (4) scratch built recoilless rifles ( With "LASER SIGHTS" )
Are you going to add an elevation system? Looks like it would be pretty easy to fab. Similar to an elevator set up in a plane. Tube inside a tube, with a central arm operated by a servo to rotate the guns up and down. Surfing the net and found this for you. http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/m50-ontos-tank-3d-3ds/602315 Pretty neat gives you 360 views of the tank in various drawings. Anywho, you've inspired me, I'm going to tinker with a rocket system for mine, similar to the one project they were developing for the Stuart way back when. Fired twenty 7.2 rockets!
Posted on: 7/26/2012 8:24 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11169979

RE: star decals
Bill, Don't know if vinyl would work for you, but if so, give Callie a holler at Callie Graphics. She can do up what ever you want, is quick, cheap and does beautiful work. She's well know for her work over on the airplane side. http://www.callie-graphics.com/index.php
Posted on: 7/25/2012 9:53 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
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RE: Just bought used 1/6 M5 Stuart Tank-
Oh in all that, almost forgot a couple of things I ran into that others need to know about. Top rollers for the treads. On mine they were pretty much bound up tight, wouldn't have taken long to flat spot em big time. I found two things that were causing it. #1 the post that the roller assembly fits over is a tad too short. This lets the "axle" portion of the rollers bind on the side of the tank. Simple fix, take a sanding block to the "axle" to shorten it slightly. Will give the clearance needed for it to free wheel. #2 the same post can mushroom where the roller retainer screw goes into it. This causes the post to bind on the hole in the roller "axle". Again easy fix. Carefully trim off the mushroomed portion on the post, and open up the hole slightly in the "axle". Mine now freewheel nicely. And don't forget to lube all the moving parts. Those rollers are two parts, and inner and outer, and they can rotate independently. As for lube, I saw that most recommend grease, just gotta be careful you don't use something that will attack the plastic. Me being me, I decided to try something else. I noticed on the versions using grease on the gearboxes that the grease ended up getting flung everywhere. I'd see pictures of the top half of the tank on the inside with grease spewed all over them. And these are pretty much sealed gearboxes. Not sure if the others were just using way too much grease, or that what ever they were using just had poor adhesion properties, but it wasn't for me. What I used was Lucas Oil Treatment. This stuff puts STP to shame. It has the consistency of molasses, and sticks like snot. I put some in a syringe, with a CA needle on it. Put a thin coat on all the gears and bushings, and spun up the tank. Not a drop came off, and boy did it quiet up the gearboxes. Flush with success there, I stripped the tank of all moving parts and each got a coat of Lucas. I'm running mostly in sand, and I recently pulled the tracks for paint. Popped all the rollers and idlers off to check em for wear. None, nada, zilch. Sand trapped all around the moving parts but none on the surfaces that moved.
Posted on: 7/25/2012 6:33 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "War Room"
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RE: Just bought used 1/6 M5 Stuart Tank-
Yeah well I blame you for getting me into this.[:D] I have more r/c planes then I can shake a stick at and they now are sitting around collecting dust. Why? Because of the new addiction I have.[:-] Managed to snag a NIB MotorWorks version. And it's being completely redone. Switched over to a Spektrum 2.4 system, Turnigy bec, and Sabertooth 12 esc. Even kept the original sounds, and that took some doing. 5 servos and 8 pin switches now run the board's main chip. Even modded the Spektrum tx by adding momentary switches to operate the guns. Speaking of guns, it's getting an airsoft cannon installed. With elevation and gyros.[;)] Already added working head and tail lamps, a spot lamp, and a laser sight. Remote camera is being installed too. Moved the battery (original) to the center of the tank for better balance, and the camera's transmitter/antenna and battery now occupy the tank battery's old tub. Added a pair of cooling fans to keep the electronics happy, and waterproofed em all with CorrosionX. Saving up for a pair of Jack's treads, but in the mean time, the stock ones got a multi step treatment to give them a little bit of authentic looks. Ditto the sprockets and top rollers. First a coat of silver to mimic bare steel, followed by a rusty overcoat. The pads, though not correct, got multiple passes of spray on bed liner to give the rubber look. Then some runs in the sand to start the wear in process. As it gets run, the rust paint will wear away leaving the silver to show through. I'm doing this one up as the most famous M5, the "Haunted Tank". Has the rusted up paint already done, even got the Rebel flag flying. Jeb, Slim and the rest of the crew are going to ride again.
Posted on: 7/25/2012 5:52 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "War Room"
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RE: 1/6 stuart with (4) scratch built recoilless rifles ( With "LASER SIGHTS" )
Brave man (and lucky) using a band saw. [:D] As for something to patch up the bad spots, check out an automotive body shop supply store. 3M makes several plastic repair products that will work better then Bondo. 5883 is a great product for such repairs. Designed as an adhesive and filler for rigid plastics, and is easily sanded. They make others but you need the applicator gun for them, the 5883 comes in two tubes. Mixes up like good old epoxy. Something else on why stuff doesn't adhere well. Poor prep of the areas. This plastic is oily, I've had CA pop right off like cold hot glue, when applied straight to it. Wipe the surface with a degreaser first, even before sanding, otherwise you just work the oil right into the sanded areas, and you get poor adhesion of your filler material.
Posted on: 7/25/2012 4:00 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
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RE: 1/6 stuart with (4) scratch built recoilless rifles ( With "LASER SIGHTS" )
Those batteries have to initial charge for something like 18 hours. On mine I ended up setting them up on my nicad charger, as after a day using the stock charger on the first one I didn't see any response. Guessing the charger was bad. Both acted the same, had to run em through several charge discharge cycles, I guess to get em conditioned. But mine guessing at the date code on the boards, are 9 years old and are doing just fine. Worse comes to worse, check places that handle emergency lighting systems, many of these systems use the same batteries.
Posted on: 7/23/2012 8:51 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11165751

RE: Coming soon to this forum (not for the rivit counters)
Sweet! I'm with you, love the odd ball stuff. And BigMig you're my hero on Stuarts! I finished a Stuart copied like my Dad's first ride for him. Liked it so much I went out and bought another. Converting to 2.4, using a Sabertooth esc. Adding a custom built hole punching Airsoft cannon, with laser sight and a remote camera. I was thinking of adding a calliope system using the small bottle rockets with a remote igniter system. Don't tell the AMA but I'm going to copy the pylon system I had on one of my birds. It could salvo 12 bottle rockets remotely on it, so a similar set up would be perfect for the calliope. Spring loaded resistor wire out of an old heat gun traps the fuses on the rockets. Servo operated switch using a 3S lipo "fired" up the resistor wire, which in turn lit the fuses. I'll use the gear switch changed over to a push button on my DX6i to work it. Hmm, on yours, if you are using a 6 channel tx, you could use the flap channel with a single servo to fire your four rockets individually. Board with four contacts, servo carries a power lead. Mark your tx by the flap switch to move the servo to fire each rocket.
Posted on: 7/21/2012 10:15 PM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11164120

RE: What have I gotten myself into?
Thanks, as for the Pico switches, at least from Willy's site, you cut the 5 volt pin on the chip in the stock receiver board. Then it's just a matter of applying 5 volts to the various other pins that run the sounds and turret. Least to me, would be easy enough to tap the 5 volt feed and use the Pico switches to carry it to the operation you want to function.
Posted on: 6/22/2012 6:17 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11127553

What have I gotten myself into?
Not real sure how it all happened, simple trip on EvilBay looking for machine guns for my Camel and DR1 and I end up with a NIB r/c 1/6th M5 Stuart. And like Sgt. Schultz, "I know nothing!" about tanks. Anywho, been pounding the web trying to find as much as possible about this thing, good and bad. And figure why not ask the experts some of the millions of questions I'm sure to have. Going to convert it to 2.4, so for esc's, what are your thoughts on the Sabertooth 2X12 or 2X25 for it? Found on Willy's site the pin out for the stock boards so I can keep sound, would a double throw Pico switch work to operate them? Say one to control the machine gun or main gun sound, and another to operate the turret left/ right, run off of tx switches? And lastly for now, thoughts on the old r/c car trick of boiling the nylon/plastic parts, like gears/sprockets to make them less brittle? Any other tips or advice on it would be greatly appreciated. I'm going to turn it into a sorta memorial to my dad and my favorite comic book. The Haunted Tank was my to die for comic way back when, and my dad's first command was a Stuart. Thanks! Brad
Posted on: 6/22/2012 5:28 AM by Author "Glacier Girl" in the forum "RC Tanks"
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