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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
It's in the works. Pre-production kits have been invoiced, I should know more soon.
Posted on: 8/21/2012 10:01 AM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
I sent the supplier the hardware list and now waiting on a small batch of kits to arrive for final approval prior to going into production. There will possibly be several color schemes. One in my demostration colors, one with no markings and a almost ready to cover (ARC) version. Feed back welcome. Don
Posted on: 7/9/2012 4:10 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
I test flew the Flying Machine ARF this past Sunday. There were very few people at the field as the winds were 15 to 25 miles an hour and gusting higher. The FM ARF flew very well for the conditions and preformed as expected. I still need to do some flight test on a calm day just to complete the testing phase. There were some minor issues I discovered during the build that can be easily corrected. The next phase is to submit all corrections and approve a hardware selection to be packaged in the kit. The next set the factory will send five completed units in a resale package for review and assembly. We are getting closer so just hang in there guys.
Posted on: 5/29/2012 3:19 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
It's in the works, I had been on vacation and had some other stuff pending I had to complete before I started the build. It's taking a lot more time to document the build than I had anticipated. Once I get all the build images I then have to annotate the images, write the assembly instructions. Test flight should be buy the end of the month.
Posted on: 5/19/2012 3:10 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Good News! I received the fifth proto-type fuselage yesterday and I finally have something I can assemble and fly. In the next few weeks I will be photo documenting the assembly process and preparing for the test flights. Am I excited? Not really it's just another Flying Machine. It's the unknowns that will have me on edge during the test flights. In all my 30 plus years of flying the Flying Machine I have only had one other builder build a Flying Machine for me that I trusted for demo purposes. This will not be a hand full of flight tests and then have the ARF released. It will include multi-weekends of flights and inspection. There are some very minor issues to be addressed and until it passes all the flights and the issues are corrected I will not approved the ARF build. I want this as much as the rest of you do but it will not be rushed into production just to make a buck. I want a quality kit that performs to level of my performance most of you have seen in my demonstrations. I'll keep you posted on the results. There won't be much headway in the next couple of weeks as I just don't have the time to start this project. Don
Posted on: 4/12/2012 12:21 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
The forth prototype has been shipped with all the requested changes. What will happen next? 1) Verify the ARF kit meets all my requirements. 2) Photo document the ARF for assembly instructions. 3) Completed some test flights to verify integrity of the aircraft. 4) Give ok to start production of the ARF. 5) Write the assembly instructions to be included in the kit. 6) Wait for distribution of the ARF kit. No need to opt out as no money has been exchanged. You will just receive an email stating the kit is available for purchase.
Posted on: 1/31/2012 6:14 AM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
It's still in progress. I have received a total of three proto-types and none of them meet my specifications. I could make them work but that's not the point of producing the ARF. There is a language gap that creates problems communicating what the corrections are and how they need to be corrected. After the last several rounds of emails sending images and instructions back and forth, I finally went out and took sent by step images of the correction process and finally got the correction idea across. I never thought it would be this tough, just hang in there as it will be completed to my specifications. The factory submits changes to me with what they think are a better idea for production and to help control cost issues. I understand this, but it would be disastrous for the Flying Machine ARF. The aircraft must fly and be constructed just as my demonstration aircraft. I want this as much as the rest of you just hang in there.
Posted on: 1/9/2012 4:45 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
I received the second prototype yesterday (November 26, 2011). It looks good but there needs to be a few changes and a test flight before the final release. Hopefully I can get this done within the next couple of weeks. I plan on trying a Rossi .45 using a Mac tuned pipe. I know the Jett .50 and OS Max .55 does not have good mid-range performance, even though the Flying Machine is a full throttle aerobatic aircraft my demos require good mid-range performance. What kind of mid-range performance does the Rossi .45 have? I remember using the Rossi .40 many years ago and it performed great except for the added weight of the engine. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Posted on: 11/27/2011 8:07 AM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Jerry you are right. Bud Young did a spin off using the Flying Machines plans and called it the Black Widow. I remember flying the aircraft it flew good and did great spins but did not perfom like the Flying Machine.
Posted on: 9/28/2011 3:32 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
The Flying Machine proto-types arrived last week while I was on vacation in Jackson Hole, WY. The units are good quality and craftsmanship. I have already documented and sent corrections need for hopefully the final design. I have not done any test flying of these proto-types as they are in need of some major design changes. The proto-types were produced using front dowel pins and aft wing mount bolts to secure the wing. As you know my wing mounting design is unique and provides strength to the fuselage and delivers the wings loads fully to the sides and bottom of the fuselage. The wing mount design was conceived over many years of high speed aerobatic flying. I know from experience using dowel pins to secure the wing it will fail from the speed and aerobatics forces of this aircraft. Although I sent the drawings, instructions and many images of what the design requirements and how it should be built, it was built as a typical ARF design. This was the same case as when Dave Hockaday had the proto-types built. I'll keep you informed when I receive the next proto-type versions. Lots of thing to still do such as box design, logo, writing assembly instructions, photos, test flying, etcetera. Mr.Snap roll to do the snaps it's all in the timing, practice, practice, practice. Make sure all you linkages are tight, stiff and installed per my instructions. The rudder needs to have a 45 degree deflection to assure a complete clean snap. John, my dead stick spot landings comes from many years of doing just that, practice, practice, practice. Later, Don
Posted on: 9/27/2011 4:57 AM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Fred, Looks good but I already see some major issues to be addressed. Later, Don
Posted on: 8/15/2011 8:48 AM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Protanopia (Color Blindness) Because of this color blindness I have found the Black/Yellow combination to provide the best tracking for my flying. Especially at high altitude when you lose the absence of color and can see only contrasting differences. This has been my secret for many years allowing me to fly out of sight for most of the viewing spectators but still retain control of the aircraft. If you have ever seen my demo you know what I'm talking about when I climb to my death dive. I once had a Loctite logo version of Flying Machine that was Blue/White but I soon sold the aircraft just because of the colors. To me white and blue are the worst colors for a small and fast R/C aircraft. Why would you ever want to camouflage your R/C aircraft aginst the sky. I have seen many pilots over the years lose aircraft because of their color selection causing disorientation. Just lessons learned from many years of flying. The old eyes are not what they use to be but I can still GIT-R-DONE.
Posted on: 8/12/2011 4:53 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Why do I use the colors Black and yellow for my demo Flying Machine ? Think you know the answer......... [:-] Later, Don Muddiman
Posted on: 8/12/2011 2:45 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
The 60 size flies almost identical to the 40 with the following exceptions, 1) Size effects the aerobatic quickness/response not to say the 60 is slow by any means, just that any time you scale a model up you start to affect the performance of these features. 2) The airfoil change was a benefit to increasing the speed. As you scale up a model of this type your wing loading typically gets lighter reducing the need to produce more lift at slow speeds. I flew to 60 size for a few years way back in the mid 90's. At that time I was not happy with the selection and performance of the 60 size engines. I ended up using one of the F-15's OS MAX .77 ducted fan rear rotor engines, MAC tuned pipe, 11x7 Rev-up prop, 15% Byron Castrol/Syn Blend fuel and a in-flight needle valve. The engine setup was very loud but accelerated like an Estes Rocket when you went ROG to vertical. I needed the in-flight needle valve to richen the fuel mixture during high G maneuvers. On the first proto-type during a full throttle pull out I ripped out the firewall with engine never to be seen again. We looked for days using metal detectors. I thought the engine had just starved for fuel until I noticed during the glide back to the field it was getting tail heavy. I then redesigned the firewall mounting using a similar method for mounting the wing. I flew it for a quite a while until its fate was ended during one of my death dives requiring a few more inches of pullout room. Those were busy years with the Cloud Dancers Show Team and I always want to build another one but never seemed to get the time. Dale Nalley another show team member built a 96" Carbon fiber wing version of the Flying Machine only to have battery failure during the first flight. We had a new battery sponsor which did not last long after that crash and our finding of why the battery failed. He did get some stick time before the crash and said it flew great. I will see if he has any pictures I can post.
Posted on: 6/30/2011 4:52 AM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Click on the button to purchase the .40 plans and add a note you want the .60 Flying Machine plans.
Posted on: 6/23/2011 5:26 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
CONDOR and I have an agreement that I will sell the plans and instructions until the ARF is released. You can purchase the plans via my web page, I also have .60 size plans of the FM. I like the Brotherhood idea, maybe we can get Fred to add it to the CONDOR web site.
Posted on: 6/23/2011 1:41 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
1) RC Maniac119 -The O.S. 32 is a hot engine for sure but I don't think it would have the low end torque to swing a 9x6 and accelerate the FM quickly out of it's stalled maneuvers. But I could be wrong. 2) CONDOR Hobbies per contract now has all rights to the Flying Machine. 3) The new FM ARF will be using two mini servos for the ailerons. 4) Using a tuned pipe can add up to 800-1500 RPM depending upon your setup. The muffled version works just as well. This a a major performance boost. 5) I have not found a source for the 4D Carburetor other than buying an old engine. Tower sells the .55 carb but it's a bit pricey. The other option I have not tried is using the Thunder Tiger .46 Pro engine or it's carb on the OS .46Ax. Don
Posted on: 6/23/2011 9:20 AM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Laserworks was in the wrong cutting the kits as he did not have my premission or East R/C who had the contract at the time.
Posted on: 6/21/2011 5:21 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
That video was shot using the .46AX about two and a half years ago. I do not recommend the .55AX as it has major mid-range problems. I spent many hours trying to sort out the problem, props, tuned pipes/length, headers, glow plugs, different carbs, fuel and even buying a second engine. It has to be a porting issue with the .55AX engine. The main reason I tried the engine was it does not use the remote needle valve as with the .46AX which causes lean fuel issues during high G maneuvers. Stick with the .46AX using a 4D carb or the .55AX carb. As far as plans go I will discuss this with CONDOR Productions as they now own the rights of the Flying Machine per the contract. Don
Posted on: 6/21/2011 7:02 AM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Yes, I will continue to sell the plans until the production Flying Machine ARF is released. You can purchase the plans from mty web site www.eagle-i.us/fm Best Regards, Don Muddiman
Posted on: 6/15/2011 6:02 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Muddiman
Posted on: 6/15/2011 8:52 AM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Here is how I setup my Flying Machine., note how I find my elevator setting. The FLYING MACHINE is extremely responsive. Initially set up the following control surface movements for test flight: Elevator : 3/8" up and down Aileron : 3/8" up and down Rudder : 3/4" right and left Center of Gravity is 3" aft of the leading edge. After the first flight or two I recommended and use the following procedure for setting up the FLYING MACHINE and all the models that you fly. Maximum Flight Control Performance. Setting up the elevator throws: Prior to flight make sure the rudder is trimmed at center. During flight trim the aircraft for level flight at wide open throttle into the wind. Pull full up elevator and watch the aircraft carefully, it should track true through a complete loop. If the aircraft starts to waiver or snaps in the loop, you have too much up elevator deflection. Decrease the up elevator throw slightly and repeat the above steps until the aircraft can complete this successfully. Apply the reverse of this procedure if during the first test loop the aircraft completes it. You want to maximize the elevator throw for the aircraft. Use the same procedure for setting up the down elevator throw. Using this procedure for setting the elevator provides for a wide speed envelope allowing you to apply full elevator in a tight situation (If you know what I mean!) knowing the aircraft will not snap. [b]I have seen many aircraft crash because of not properly setting up the elevator throws.[/b] Set the ailerons surface movements to suit your individual preference. Start out with “soft� controls and then increase the throw until you can't stand it. I never use maximum aileron control, You just can't keep up with the rolls. The rudder, well all I can say is hang on and be careful on takeoff !!. I set the FLYING MACHINE to MAX rudder. A setting of 45 to 50 degree deflection is required to provide those "ohho" and "ahhs". Knife edge maneuvers require a small amount of rudder throw. Don
Posted on: 2/7/2011 4:20 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Hi Guys, Hi Kevin, I removed the Laser Works short kits from my web page because I am going to ask Lazer Works to handle the selling the kits. It was to much hassle for me with very little return. I will be contacting Eddie at Lazer Works this coming week to see if he will agree to this as he had been selling them in the past. I'll keep you updated on the status. Best regards, Don www.eagle-i.us/fm
Posted on: 1/9/2011 8:06 AM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Hi Guys, Sorry for the delay in getting this started I had to order shipping boxes. The Flying Machine short kits can now be purchased via my web page http://eagle-i.us/fm/ The pull down menu will allow you to order the short kit without the plans. Best Regards, Don
Posted on: 11/1/2010 4:43 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Hi Guys, It will take a little over a week before I have some short kits in hand, I'll let you know when I have them in stock. Later, Don www.eagle-i.us/fm
Posted on: 10/16/2010 12:23 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Hey Guys, Dave Hockaday and I just discussed this late last week and I have not had the time to get the orders placed for the short kits and update my web page with the info. The short kit will include cut parts only such as fuselage sides, ribs, etc. and also include full size plans and instructions. I expect the price to be around $58.00 plus shipping (approximately $5.00 to $6.00 for shipping). Please let me know if the pricing is within reason. I have to order six kits at a time and really don't want to be stuck with kits I cannot sell. The Flying Machine ARF is still in the works and we are now going with another builder as the last one did not meet our specifications. The last proto-type ARF had a wing failure and we found the consistency of the kits varied which is not a good thing. I am still flying the first proto-type with lots of mods and waiting for the day I can just pull one out of the box put it together in a few hours. It will happen! Best Regards, Don
Posted on: 10/13/2010 5:44 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Here is my tuned pipe setup for the OS MAX .55AX. Open the image for full details. Later, Don
Posted on: 8/11/2010 6:45 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Guys, I talked to Dave Hockaday of East R/C about eight weeks ago and he has the second proto-type in house. I'll give him another call and see if I can find out what is going on. As I said before in previous post his business has suffered during this slowdown of the economy. I still hold all the rights to the Flying Machine. Condor060 will see you soon. Later, Don Muddiman
Posted on: 8/11/2010 6:40 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Standard servos are fine for .4x engines, but I would upgrade the rudder servo because it takes a beating on the ground and in the air. Later, Don
Posted on: 6/30/2010 5:43 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
I talked to Dave last week and he has received the second Flying Machine proto-type with all the mods I requested. The down economy has had a major effect on Dave's main business (Scoot Works) and all his time been dedicated in keeping it going. Scoot Works is starting to recover and that will give Dave some relief in pursuing the Hobby side once again. I should see the second proto-type soon and hopefully this will be the final product before going to full production. Later, Don www.eagle-i.us/fm
Posted on: 6/21/2010 6:37 PM by Author "Muddiman"
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