RE: D-7 Champs in Bakersfield
[quote]ORIGINAL: patternflyer1 I personally think there is time for fun at other contests. I don't think some understand needing the time to perhaps trim, or practice till dark 30 unless you are perhaps in second or third place. Heck, even if you are in last, but you want to finish second to last. That counts just as much in my book. Seeing as the nats is so far from our district, not many go. This is our nats. Would you do other stuff at the nats? No. Not even if the sun was in your face. You would still fly. I know I would. Some may not get there till late on Friday and need those last flights before dark. That being said, I am all for having Unknowns at next years Arvin contest, or other stuff also. Arvin was a lot of fun this season! Now I am one that will probably need that last flight of the day as I will be hopefully have a new plane and be trimming. lol. So maybe my vote shouldn't count. lol Chris [/quote] Chris dont worry we will include the unknowns at another time. As far as the Gee Bee Racing we have a solution for that as well. We will make a gee bee runway over by the CL circle and not far from the new hanger, therefore the runway will be open all the time. C
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RE: F3A Results - SPOILER
[quote]ORIGINAL: serious power Hi Jim, That's all very fine and true. However how did the guy's that came 1st and 2nd do it. They had the very same constraints. To pick out this one aspect just does not seem to compute. Is it being suggested that if he had IC as well as Brett that they would both have beaten Jason. Jason has already said that he had little or no wind practice and yet he could beat the YS is those testing conditions. There is an expression (it's probably universal); ' A poor workman blames his tools '. Is all this a case of that ?. Brian [/quote] Brian, I am not sure what you have been reading in all this or maybe I just do not understand what you are saying but I in know way implied I would of beaten anyone if I would of had a YS at that contest. Once again I will try to explain myself as best I can so there is no confusion. All I am thinking IN THE FUTURE I will have two setups thats all. I have nothing but praise for the guys the came in 1st 2nd and 3rd. I practiced for a couple weeks and went for fun. Sure it was nice to be competitive but it was know surprise to me to come in 4th. I am now thinking about the future and if called upon how to be the best prepared for me to do well in SA. It is going to be at a time of the year when it is very possible to have pour conditions as well so why not be prepared. If in your mind that makes me a poor workman then so be it. C
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RE: F3A Results - SPOILER
After all, it's been over a fifth of a century since the USA had an Individual Champion! [/quote] Ahhh you guys lol. You all told me Quique won 2007. I think thats true but I am honored Tony that you still remember me in that way. C
Posted on: 8/6/2012 8:58 PM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: F3A Results - SPOILER
[quote]ORIGINAL: protectedpilot [quote]ORIGINAL: Passport1 Tuny, Alejandro, and Bryan I have known you guys for quite a while and although we have had differences in opiniouns I have always respected you. Please don't hold the rude comments that I read earlier in these posts against us here in the US. Most pattern flyers in this Country as well as world wide are great guys. The internet
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RE: F3A Results - SPOILER
Tuny, Alejandro, and Bryan I have known you guys for quite a while and although we have had differences in opiniouns I have always respected you. Please don't hold the rude comments that I read earlier in these posts against us here in the US. Most pattern flyers in this Country as well as world wide are great guys. The internet is a wonderful thing but like all great inventions it has its weak points. I am sure my grammer is not perfect, as well as my english but I hope that I am able to get my point across. These are things that work for me or ideas that I may be concidering. I am sure there are 1000 different ways to do this stuff and I hope that I am not insulting anyone, especially modelers of your stature. Sincerely Chip Hyde
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RE: F3A Results - SPOILER
Thinking of switching for the finals and unknown plane. Maybe fly something like this. C
Posted on: 8/5/2012 8:18 PM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: D-7 Champs in Bakersfield
[quote]ORIGINAL: dolstinske Time permitting, I would love to do the unknown, for Masters. Dale [/quote] Time permitting Dale I think most of the guys would as well, but the voice of one can ruin things for so many. At this point I have realized what the problem is with these ideas so I am going to back away from this event to focus all of my time and effort into the Bakersfield Spring Invitational Bash. BTW I never spoke on the clubs behalf as far as smoking at the field I just said I wouldn't. People that do things like that are liable to put themselves on the outs with the club as well as all involved. Sorry I ever brought any of this up. C
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RE: D-7 Champs in Bakersfield
oops LOL This time I caught myself before hand. (Learning has occured) [i]While I think the GB racing is fun and a good addition to a regular contest, I don't think it's a good idea at the Districts. People are going to want to be practice flying all the way until dark on Friday and Saturday evening. I think it should be skipped during the District Champs.[/i] The field will close on Fri and Sat. when the sun makes it dangerous to fly (its only about an hour where the glare gets really bad normally around 5) as we don't want an otherwise fun time to be spoiled for anyone due to a mishap. We already had a top pilot earlier in the year get totally disorientated in the stall turn and pulled out heading toward the road, that was scary. So the GEE BEE's will have no problem not to mention they are a blast to watch for everyone. [i]If there is any chance that a demo or a stop in flying will then make getting in the 6 rounds tough, it should be skipped. Again, during a regular contest, fine, but not the District Championships[/i] Kyles demo will also only please all of us especially the club members and it will happen between the rounds that are closest to noon for a total of 6-7 minutes. Most evey one will be enjoying a quick lunch Catered by our good buddy Jamie like last time. (this time it will be the chicken no mix ups I promise) Think of it as dinner and a show [i]Unknowns sound like fun. But they will add 1 to 1.5 hours to the conclusion of the contest. 3 F3A pilots and 3 Masters means at least an hour. Then the calibration of the scores.[/i] As for the Unknowns maybe that was annouced a little early. I will get on the phone this weekend and start making some calls. Jerry and Chris if you guys could shoot me a pm with your numbers that would be great. I have everyone elses I do believe. It was awesome talking to Jon about giving the Unknown thing a shot because I don't think its ever been done in Masters to date. I mean noone is being pressured or forced to do anything and if the guys that are good enough to make it that day want to try it, then hey why not. Matt, Mike, and Myself will gladley work with whoever would like to learn some of our techniques and by the end after a successful flight, I bet you will feel a real since of accomplishment. I still do even when I make a mistake or two, because I know inside at least I gave it my best. Not to mention clearing that hurdle of doing something that you were always maybe just a little unsure of. Trust me it turns into fly by caller, the pilots job is far easier. [i]Since the club has decided to start enforcing rules that it previously did not, and since the lease requires no smoking or fires on the property, can I assume that there will be no smoking at the field during the event? I hope so. Barkley just can't stand those nasty smokers! vbg[/i] What a coincidense, I was already thinking I should just quit cold turkey that same weekend! twlvg8ge Now on to a very valid point that we overlooked back in April. Absolutely we will have something in place for the guys that are getting some pointers and need to get more flights in Fri. Thanks for bringing that up Randy Of course things will be eliminated in the interest of getting all the important stuff in. Jon, the club, and everyone involved know how important it is. This is not the first dance for any of these guys. The little bonuses have been thought out and scheduled in order to make use of the time we would all be just sitting around waiting. Not to mention without old school added to the mix we open up a minimum of 3.5 to 4 more hours. [quote]ORIGINAL: TonyF While I think the GB racing is fun and a good addition to a regular contest, I don't think it's a good idea at the Districts. People are going to want to be practice flying all the way until dark on Friday and Saturday evening. I think it should be skipped during the District Champs. Also, I think during the Districts every attempt at getting in the full 6 rounds should be done. If there is any chance that a demo or a stop in flying will then make getting in the 6 rounds tough, it should be skipped. Again, during a regular contest, fine, but not the District Championships. Unknowns sound like fun. But they will add 1 to 1.5 hours to the conclusion of the contest. 3 F3A pilots and 3 Masters means at least an hour. Then the calibration of the scores. Since the club has decided to start enforcing rules that it previously did not, and since the lease requires no smoking or fires on the property, can I assume that there will be no smoking at the field during the event? I hope so. Barkley just can't stand those nasty smokers! vbg [/quote]
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RE: F3A Results - SPOILER
[quote]ORIGINAL: Doug Cronkhite [quote]ORIGINAL: TonyF I'm having a hard time with this. The winner, who absolutely smoked 'em in the finals, was flying electric. And second place, who was distinctly ahead of the third place YS flier, was also flying electric. And now the top F3A pilots will have to switch to a YS? Just seems difficult for me to comprehend. [/quote] Yep, and that 2nd place guy was flying a very non-overweight biplane too. Hmmm. [/quote] Hey Doug all this talk about weight problems has me a little self conscious now lol. Just to set the record straight even with the contra and TP5000's I had room to spare, lol I tipped the scales at 5049, every time we weighed it. As for the electric vs glow the race is probably as tight as its been since probably 2006 and that is just my opinioun from being there. I know how hard Andrew worked and I know how hard I did. I flew almost everyday for two weeks and in that time I think I had about 8-10 flights of P in before the contest started. However in that sequence I was winning and Andrew and I split our lines. So in theory the contra set up must be making something easier or look a little better in that pattern wouldn't you agree. As for the F and unknown as an outsider watching those guys it just looked like Brett had the ability to relax a little more. (I am not saying he flew better) Honestly I have not thought even for a moment in the past 7 years that maybe the glow engines could have an advantage. However for some reason, some how, I think it hit a few of us at about the same time. The bottom line is Andrew and CPLR can win with anything because they work the hardest and fly the best. My thought was simply what could I do to lesson the work load while I am flying. Anyway it motivated me to get off my butt and design a couple new planes. Not to mention want to get back out and practice. I just need to locate a starter and some liquid stuff. C
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D-7 Champs in Bakersfield
I know its early but the wheels are in motion already. I just got off the phone with Mr. Carter and it looks like the contest is going to be very similiar in nature to the Spring event. Fri. is a full day of seminars and clinics, again open to everyone for free. Team Caglia has decided to make the Friday night dinner at the field something that is going to be the norm and not just a one time thing so plan on Mexican food at the field Fri. evening. Since this is the season final and we need to get as much in as humanly possible we are not going to run the Old School Event but there is going to still be plenty of neat things happening. We have figured out that the Gee Bee race does not need to be a guessing game as to who does what. Jon had the idea to just attach little colored streamers a couple feet long and that is how to ID the planes. Problem solved first heat wil be Fri. around 5 or 530, and then we will pick up sat. evening again at approx the same time. Kyle volenteered to fly his heli again for us both days at lunch if you guys are up for it. (BTW He is now the 3D Masters World Champion as of last month) We will run the lines the same as last time but now we will have pre printed flight orders for every round with arrows by your name pointing to either the left or right so there will be no confusion. Sportsman pilots will fly the full routine this time, and I think that just about covers the changes. Oh yeah Masters and FAI (Top 3) in each class will be flying an Unknown pattern that is going to be a contest in and of itself. This is one round for experience and a good time. Sat. evening the top 5 in each class will take home the unknowns already written out just like the guys started doing at the early TOC's. The patterns will not be stump the chump type, but more like slight variations on the existing pattern. (Except FAI) I hope the 4th and 5th place guys wont mind judging it shouldn't take more then 20 min per class. I am sure we will have a cool prize for each class and I believe this is going to become a perpetual deal so that will be cool as well to keep the trophy a year at a time. The field has really gone through some changes in just this past week and it really looks great. As far as the club is concerned make yourselves at home and please respect the rules. No alcohol until your done flying for the day and dogs need to be on leashes. Thats about it for me as Jon is the CD and I believe he will post shortley to follow up on few things. C
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RE: F3A Results - SPOILER
Hi, Looking at the results it would appear that AJ had the 'advantage' in the F's and unknowns !!! That Q80 must be some motor !! :) Brian [/quote] I am sorry I thought I covered it that Andrew flew awesome and deserved every point and then some. His combination was great as well, I was more or less saying for us mere mortals I thought it might be one less thing to think about. Granted I doubt we will have those exact same conditions and patterns again however I know Brett never gave finishing the Unknown 2 with the vertical 8 in 25 mph winds a second thought. Thats all I was saying. Not to mention the pattern was 76 K as well.
Posted on: 8/3/2012 7:27 AM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: F3A Results - SPOILER
[quote]ORIGINAL: BHolsten That's Awesome Don! Congradulations to you and Joseph on the Team nominations. We should get together some time for a weekend and fly together, will help me knock off the cob webs after not flying for a year and a half. Anyway,..wanted to say Congradulations and it's long over due. Joseph, Great job and I look forward to flying with all of you again soon! Regards, bholsten [/quote] Absolutely Ditto on the congrats it was a pleasure to watch and I know how proud you must be. The difficulty and competition is much much greater now then it was 30 years ago IMO. I think we had an avalanche in the 84 pattern and then a bunch of quarter loops and half rolls. I am not saying it wasn't hard but there have been so many elements added since then and he has a handle on all of them. Once again GREAT JOB JOSEPH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As for the Team it was a pleasure to watch each one of you fly as always. However on thurs. this year something was different. Up until the finals day it was anybodys contest to win or lose. However on thurs. everyone was fighting for second. AJ was in a league of his own and flew like a machine. He had his new plane that he designed and then had the molds made in Arg. (It was a google translate year but between Falco's Marino, Sergio, and of course Andrew) they got it done and done right the first time. I am not sure its as simple as an early post made it sound as I took just one look at it and saw immediately several things Andrew incorporated in the design from the beginning and one shortley after. Flared Rudder TE, Snow Wings, SFG's, Fuse size, and super lite weight IMO he has everything needed to do what he did. Of course there are many options to chose from but this year I went with the contra. I am convinced its as good or better then anything for our P 13 Sequence and IMO all the AMA classes. Those patterns are not to power hungry in any conditions and have a ton of straight lines with rolls in them. As for F and the Unknowns just about anything will get through them in average conditions however we did not have average conditions this year. We were also not able to pick the patterns as a group so it was a true test of of everything. Personally I was just happy to do all the manuevers lol. Andrew blazed through pretty good with his Q80 on TP 5400's, as did the others however I really believe Brett had an advantage. Simply because the YS doesn't care what manuever is what, or where, as long as is has fuel in the tank. It will be interesting to see how the European Champs go and if some others share the same opinouns. Once again Arch, Congrats on the win as well as running a great nats. It was a pleasure to see all of you guys again and hope it happens for many years to come. C
Posted on: 8/2/2012 8:59 PM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Nuance
Hey Mike I can't wait to see everyone as well. I get in tomorrow with the Kimbro's.
Posted on: 7/16/2012 8:43 PM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: Nuance
Never is a long time. Jay what you are feeling is what I to feel but I am no authority in trimming. However CPLR and I do compare notes quit often and I can assure you that he does use that mix as well as many other top pilots. It is not a mix that will take you from a 5th place guy to 1st overnight but a few of us less experienced pilots do feel its important. I think maybe Tony tried it once and had it going the wrong way by accident. I know we discovered his rudder to elev. mix was doing exactley that a month or so ago on the Onas and once that was taken care of his flying really improved. I am not poking fun or anything like that, I am just saying we are all human and even the best guys can fly 300+ flights and not be able to detect a certain problem when a new set of eyes can take one glance see it immediately. Hope this helps... C [quote]ORIGINAL: TonyF There is never a need to use a throttle to rudder mix.
Posted on: 7/15/2012 9:58 PM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: Contra Rotating Propeller Drive for f3a 2m Pattern Planes
Hey Brenner Thanks for everything. heres a pic of my Worlds Visa converted and it flys so straight and true I love it. I only have 3% down elev mixed to throttle and maybe a .5% mix rudder to ail/elev for the Knife edge triangles. This plane is one of 2 or 3 we built with the elipitical which was considerably slower then the stock Visa but has plenty of speed when need be. Props are reshaped to the APC's as close as I could make them and with the 25C TP 5000's its got plenty mo. Front is a 20.5x20 and the rear is 20.75x22. Here is a pic of the polished drive I am using at this time. I am going to use the painted one with the stars as the back up. The second pic slithered across my shoes when I was doing the knife edge loop. I came very close to crashing lol as well as something else. C
Posted on: 7/13/2012 8:16 AM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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Not finished but I could not wait
Everyone I hope you enjoy the following videos. This is what our hobby is supposed to be about. Chris W and Mike C I want to thank you for everything you guys have done. I know there are some folks out there that want to talk negative about us but as I think everyone can see from these short clips Bakersfield is where its at and going to be. It was the highlight in my modeling career to be a part of this and trust me there is a lot more to come. I think the video speaks for itself...... sound off off if your coming next year it will be 3 days..>>>>> http://youtu.be/ml5J6W596t8 http://youtu.be/1lTzrYEXw-I C
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RE: I`m looking for Supra 2000 Tatanium retract gears
Hey Brian I like the new bipe especially the chin. This is the first I have seen it other then the drawings you had with you last year in Columbia. I spent the first couple months of this year playing with my Scandalous and made a few changes. I have to say I think the bipe may be an advantage in the F sequence in lite to moderate conditions this time around which is not something I thought I would say a year ago. Heres a pic of the Scandalous with a few little changes The second pic is one I am having some trim issues with. Every time I do a snap the nose wiggles. lol just kidding. C
Posted on: 6/12/2012 4:47 AM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: 1st Annual Bakersfield D7 Spring Pattern Bash
[quote]ORIGINAL: TonyF Jamie is a fellow club member and a new friend. He came down to the Bakersfield event with a new model he bought from another club member on Wednesday. It isn't really a pattern model, it is a small Katana sport model. He flew some of the Sportsman maneuvers with it in practice late Friday, then flew the entire pattern flown at Bakersfield in the first round of the contest. He got hooked, bought a 2-meter Evolution from Jean Greear, and has been at the field nearly every day since Bakersfield flying. So I think, at least in his case, Chip's idea worked. Or maybe Jamie would have gotten hooked anyhow. I can understand wanting to fly the entire pattern. Sportsman will fly the full pattern at my meet on the 23rd. But if you decided to skip Chip's contest because of a shortened Sportsman pattern you would have missed flying and participating in maybe the best pattern event D-7 has had in decades. It certainly had the biggest entry in Sportsman that I can remember in quite some time. I'm already looking forward to next year's event and have offered my assistance to the Bear Mountain club in any way to help it happen again. [/quote] Since this came up and I am glad it did I have been doing some more thinking about this but first of all I want to say this. I am not a big fan of people that get involved in debates having to do with classes they do not fly in and that is why I normally do not say much about these things. However since running the contest and wanting to make it better next year I think that a better solution needs to be reached. When I started we had pre novice at the local contests and that was the class people were able to get there feet wet in. It was very similiar to the shortened pattern and had the basic elements in it. IMO Sportsman should be something the above average sport flyer can do with some effort on his part to an average of a 5 or 6. Nobody enjoys getting zeros and honestly I don't think that is the way our entry level class needs to be unless they completely mess something up. Then after learning the basics (a loop, a roll, stall turn and most important how to fly straight and level) they can move up to intermidiate to continue learning more difficult elements while flying a longer routine. At this time the way I see it is, 90% of the people that want to try pattern on their own, (like my dad and I did) will quit long before they ever get to a contest because of the difficulty and length of our entry class. Pre Novice was not a class that had a points system and was not intended for guys to stay in it, even for a full year. It simply gave a place to start where you were not competing against seasoned verterans. Maybe we could stay with the patterns as they are now and simply allow the sportsman pilots to choose long or short with a 3 contest cap on guys flying the short version (On the honor system) That way every contest will have the potential to be someones first even with minimal help to the pilot and burden on the CD. As for the two guys that are now flying the full sequence, Steve and Jamie, I am really happy to see them entering some more contests and I even called Steve to say congrats after seeing that he place 2nd a couple of weeks ago. Jamie you to. I am not sure how many know this but Steve has been building pattern planes since the early 80's and Bakersfield was his first event. Gary Banducci, Larry Williams, and Steve Smith have stuck with it as well and will be at some contests in the near future flying the full sequence. Anyway I am confident that next years contest will fly the full patterns but we will also have a place for a guy that just wants to see what its all about. C
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RE: 1st Annual Bakersfield D7 Spring Pattern Bash
[quote]ORIGINAL: pvogel Chip, It was a great event, I had a lot of fun. But I have to say, I felt deprived in the competition department. I *did not* like the shortened sportsman, at most you saved about 90 seconds per sportsman flight and you denied us the *least* repetitive part of the sequence (vertical upline, split-S turnaround, horizontal roll, the 2nd of 2 1/2 reverse cubans and the cobra). As someone who treked a couple hundred miles and shelled out for a hotel room to compete, not to mention the $40 to participate I felt denied the equal opportunity to participate. You had 8 folks show up for sportsman because you threw a fun bash. We had 3 in Sportsman at Victorville a few weeks before and we had 4 in Sacramento this past weekend. Please don't confuse correlation (we shortened the pattern and had 8 sportsman contestants) with causality (we had 8 sportsman contestants BECAUSE we shortened the pattern). I don't believe the latter is true. The guys that were in sportsman that I talked to would have liked to do the whole sequence. You had 8 because Arvin is centrally located and there was a bunch of other fun stuff built around the competition. Let's please not have any more competitions that shorten the sequence, you are denying us the opportunity to perform in front of judges, which is what we need (other than lots of practice) to get better at managing our nerves and prepare ourselves to move up to intermediate. The only reason the sequence ''feels'' repetitive is because most of us choose to do 1/2 reverse cubans as our out of the box turnarounds. When you look at the sequence itself, there are 2 1/2 reverse cubans and 1 1/2 cuban, a stall turn, an immelmann and a split-S. Turnaround options are limited when you want to keep most of the stuff down low where it's easier for us to know the attitude of our planes so a certain amount of repetition is necessary. As for IMAC, yeah, there are only 10 maneuvers, but you do them twice how is that LESS repetitive or better than 15 maneuvers only two of which are repeated (1/2 reverse and straight flight)? Peter+ [/quote] Peter, I am not sure what to say other then (we had more entrants because we shortened the pattern) we had 8 and it should of been 10 but two guys had last minute emergencies come up. That is 100% more then Sacramento and those four would not of flown if the pattern was the full length regardless of what might of been said at the contest. I know this because I worked with 6 guys for a couple weeks to get them through the short pattern without zeros and that was cutting it close as it was. I am not sure how we will do it in the future I think we need to finish out the year and see if we have an increased entrants. I have been thinking about it and I do have a few ideas but they are not things that can be done at any one contest so I am not going to get into it now. Once again I am sorry you felt deprived we did what we thought was best for the event. Pattern, I meant, not the Contest. C
Posted on: 6/10/2012 3:47 AM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: 1st Annual Bakersfield D7 Spring Pattern Bash
Well guys its over and what a weekend it was. I cannot thank you all for coming out it was great seeing everyone and the memories will last me a lifetime. It was so cool on Sat. when you looked around and the pits were full of pattern flyers from both present and past. Along with Joe himself we had Clearance Lee and Bob Smith who stopped by just adding to everything else that was happening. Mike C. brought his girlfriend Jessica and his sister Jen. who who stepped right in and kept things going smoothly. We sold out of shirts almost immediately and plan to order some more. Thanks again Jon!!!!!! I am completely wiped out today but plan on writing some more when I get a little energy. Kyle Dahl is not only hooked on pattern but did the most impressive demos I have ever seen with his heli. All in all it was a blast and we are already planning next year. Chip
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RE: Is Joe Bridi still around?
[quote]ORIGINAL: doxilia From the sounds of it, Joe will be attending the classic pattern meet in Southern California with a number of other hot shots including Tony Frackowiak, Chip Hyde and others. David [/quote] That is correct Joe is coming to Bakersfield for our event this weekend. We will be running the standard AMA classes and FAI along with Old School Masters. For that event we are flying from the 1983 FAI rule. That means we pick our own patterns from there list and it needs to add to 45 K. It looks like the weather will be perfect and we have about 50 entrants so far. It is actually turning into a reunion of sorts with the folling guys showing up. Richard Verano, Rusty Van Baren, Bob Smith, Joe Bridi, Jim Kimbro, Tony Frak, and a bunch more. I was able to get a hold of and refinsh Jerry Boyce's original Circus Circus Patricia at the last minute. Kimbro unretired the Silloutte, Tony has a Phoenix 7, and Richard will be flying Joe's personal Escape. We will also have noon demos by one of the best Heli pilots in the world Kyle Dahl and then Gee Bee racing will kick off at 530 both tomorrow and Sat. Anyone that would like to come up and hang out or even fly is welcome. Below is the Patricia with OPS and it gets it. Chip
Posted on: 4/26/2012 8:52 AM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "Classic RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: 1st Annual Bakersfield D7 Spring Pattern Bash
No Problem. Intermidiate was shortened because I thought that might be why Intermidiate has only had one entrant this year as well. I just took a shot that 19 of the same thing was not helping attract new people. We will know soon enough. See you Sat.
Posted on: 4/25/2012 6:49 AM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: 1st Annual Bakersfield D7 Spring Pattern Bash
Thanks Chris can't wait to see all you guys again its been a while. I can't believe it everyday I am getting calls from guys and everyone just seems so excited to get here. I mean when do you think the designers of the Deception, Dirty Birdy, Patricia, Ceptor, UFO, Jekyll, Silloutte, Visa etc. were all at the same field together. I think this will be a first. Of course this is a serious contest and will be run as fair as possible but everyone having a good time is a huge part of this. I have rescently been to a couple contests out of state that were almost the ones that broke the camels back so to speak. I assure you as competitors you only need to worry about flying well. You will have compentant Judges for every round, and they will be from differnt areas not just Bakersfield. Our goal here is to make everyone feel at home and actually look forward to coming back.
Posted on: 4/25/2012 6:36 AM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: 1st Annual Bakersfield D7 Spring Pattern Bash
[quote]ORIGINAL: Silent-AV8R Couple of quick questions since I am playing catch up. First - what time is the pilot's meeting on Saturday? I cannot make it up for Friday so what time do you plan to start on Saturday? Pilots meeting Sat 8 am sharp. Registration will be open on from 4pm-6pm on friday and then again from 7-730am Sat Morning (Sat. is only for people would could not make it in on Fri.) Second - is it still the plan to cut-off Sportsman and Intermediate so there is time for the upper classes to fly?? That was never a thought from our end or had anything to do with shortening the patterns. The reason the patterns were shortened is to try and encourage some new comers to give it a try. This did work as designed so we will see our first Sportman pilots of 2012. As I understand it Intermediate will end at Figure #14 the Diamond loop, is that correct? And is landing still being judged so there are 15 figures instead of 19?? That is correct Third - what is the entry fee again? And I assume that Intermediate and Sportsman will still pay full price?? [:)] [/quote] Pilots meeting Sat 8 am sharp. Registration will be open on from 4pm-6pm on friday and then again from 7-730am Sat Morning (Sat. is only for people would could not make it in on Fri.) That was never a thought from our end or had anything to do with shortening the patterns. The reason the patterns were shortened is to try and encourage some new comers to give it a try. This did work as designed so we will see our first Sportman pilots of 2012. The Entry Fees are as follows $40.00 for standard AMA and FAI $30.00 for Old School Masters $60.00 if you fly both and yes its full price. We are not charging you guys more even though you will fly more flights then the other classes and take precedent over all the other pilots on Fri.
Posted on: 4/25/2012 6:03 AM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: 1st Annual Bakersfield D7 Spring Pattern Bash
Jerry I got your shirt order in and look forward to seeing everone on fri. More people keep signing up that are not on the list I put up the other day. We are in high gear now and everything is coming together. I had my week all planned and actually had about 7 spare minutes left over until yestterday. Bobby Baker a long time modeler had told me that he had Jerry Boyces Circus Circus Patricia and that he might bring it out. Well yesterday was the day and it flew really nice. Of course it had some hanger rash but it was all in all not to bad. As we were taking off he reminded to extend the antenna so I thought I better ask what else was in the plane. He said he had updated it and it now has all 148,s except the two goldberg retract servos. lol Needless to say I was a little nervous flying this rocket and decided to bring it in. We took the wing off and sure enough just as he said. It is so amazing to me what we used to do 35 years ago. Bobby asked if I would like to fly it and I said yes but only if he would call for me in which he agreed. Anyhow I brought it home swapped out the servos and rec. and started color matching to 35 year old KnB. Check it out its ready for clear this afternoon. I think it will bring back memories it certainly did the first time I saw it.
Posted on: 4/23/2012 10:11 AM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: 1st Annual Bakersfield D7 Spring Pattern Bash
This is my list at the moment the ones with the * are not sure yet. Getting close to 50, but I think we will be a few pilots short. However there are a couple guys that were here for the Imac contest that swore they were coming back. Shawn Berkhiemer Peter Vogel Rusty Van Buren Jon Bruml Randy Brock Bill Wallace Derek Mike Eberly Steve Dente Pedro Mike Caglia Chris Walker Kyle Dahl Gary Banducci John Buxton Steve Smith Larry Williams Leon Robison Chip Hyde Tony Frak Jim Kimbro Matt Kimbro Jerry Budd Lynn Burkes Bill Sheets Steve Lambert Steve Kanishro John Bentley Jarvis johnson Steve Locke Bob Gillespie Robert Green Jon Carter Richard Verano 2 more Gardenerville Tak Jim Oddino Don Atwood Chris Fitzsimmons Dale O. Mike Greear Jean Greear Frank Capone Jim Harlander Jacob * Bruce Brown * Kevin Gribben * Steve Neu *
Posted on: 4/21/2012 9:57 AM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: 1st Annual Bakersfield D7 Spring Pattern Bash
Sorry to hear that I will send a shirt with Jarvis is that will work. Since we do not have a way to sign up for Old School Masters I will list the guys I know of and get the info to Mike. As of now we have the following confirmed. Tony F. - Phoenix 7 Richard Verano - Bridi Escape Jim Kimbro - Silloutte (Jim brought it down today and it still looks and fly's great) Rusty Van Buren - Super Ceptor Jon Carter - Phoenix 7 Matt Kimbro - Mirage or Silloutte Chip Hyde - Phoenix 8 I spoke with Gordon tonight and everything is all set as far as the score sheets go. Please have a copy of the pattern you are planning on flying ready to give to Mike Greer on Friday mid day. We do not want to have to wait until sat morning to try and get everything in the computer. The total K for all 12 manuevers cannot exceed 45. Take off and landing do not count as part of the 12. Old School is going to start and finish the contest flying first off Sat. Morning, flying from both lines. As soon as your first flight is finished fuel up and head to the other line. I think we can get both rounds done with an hour and move right into Sportsman and intermidiate. We are going to try for a 3rd round Sat. and then 2 more Sunday afternoon for a total of 5 rounds counting the best 3. The scores will be raw unnormalized to decide the winner. Each pilot will call out the next manuever for the judges as well as Starting or Commencing Now (or something similiar) and then Complete. From what I have seen so far you guys will get quite a show. High speed passes and gear shot landings are back lol. We also need some guys that were around back then that are not flying in Old School to Judge. If interested PM me I think this can really be a lot fun all the way around. If you don't PM I still know who you are lol As for the rumor that Joe Bridi might make it out I am here to tell that is no rumor. I spoke with Joe for a good 15 to 20 minutes today and he sounded incredible. I have a feeling there might might be a few planes with a signature on them before this is over, and keep in mind he will only be here for Sat. (Now for My Story about meeting Joe) I have known and admired Joe ever since I can remember. As a matter of fact my first real memory of flying with anyone but my dad came in 1975 at the El Centro funfly. My dad and I went over since it was only an hour from Yuma and we were blown away that Joe had come out for this event. Anyway since my dad would not let me solo until I was 5 someone had to hold the master box always keeping the button pushed. Since Joe flew single stick as well he offered to give my dad a break. I remember the entire flight with my Lanier comet. I flew while Joe knelt next to me and if I am not mistaken we did a ton of touch and goes as they were what I enjoyed the most. That was 36 years ago last month. In some ways it seems like forever and in others just yesterday. For the longest time after that all I could think about was getting my first Dirty Birdy which arrived just in time for my 5th birthday. Please keep going with the pre registrations this really helps. I just recieved a text from Mike C letting me know that the San Diego boys are coming in force. At this moment Mike Eberly, Pedro, Steve Dente, and Chris Walker are in for sure. Mike is working on Steve Neu as well since he has a nice and shiny Passport that he flies all the time it only seems fitting. Kyle Dahl is going to fly Intermidiate as well do the heli demos. My Turbine waver didn't make it in yet and even though I am sure we will get it sorted out next week Kyle and I are going to work up a few minute Heli Plane Demo as a back up. If we have overlooked anything don't hesitate to point it out. The field is in great condition as far as the runway and the grass just keeps getting greener. C
Posted on: 4/21/2012 1:28 AM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: 1st Annual Bakersfield D7 Spring Pattern Bash
Anyone else that wants a shirt now is the time. I have attached a sneak peak they are going to be cool. Jon and his guys really hit a home run. Also please keep the pre registrations coming this is going to really help out. Thanks C
Posted on: 4/20/2012 7:20 AM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: 1st Annual Bakersfield D7 Spring Pattern Bash
Absolutely you guys are more then welcome. The more the merrier. We had 8 guys flying today 5 in sportsman and we had a blast. More Later C
Posted on: 4/18/2012 7:12 PM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: 1st Annual Bakersfield D7 Spring Pattern Bash
Correction Jon and Dale thank you as well as Derek for some pics LOL
Posted on: 4/17/2012 11:08 PM by Author "Passport1" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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