Masters judges - FAI 1-1/4 down snap
Hello Masters pilots.. If you are a Masters pilot, chances are you will be judging FAI at some point. In the sequence, there is a center stall turn with 3/4 roll up, and 1-1/4 snap down. When judging you may see the snap stop short and roll the last part of the maneuver to 'stay on the down-line' line. In the following example, you can see this on the right side. The goal here is to let you think about what you may be seeing. sc
Posted on: 6/5/2008 8:50 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Snap Rolls - P09
Wow, we have three power-house flyers responding.. sorry to open this up. Thanks for the comments. Chad, I recall our conversation at the Nats and I am flying the snaps as we discussed at that time - and it's working well. I will add, if I picked a CG POINT on the fuselage, and the snap rotated around this point, and the fuselage was in a stalled condition during the snap, with a high wing angle of attack (the plane still traveling on a straight line based on the POINT in the fuselage), this 1.25 snap would end with the wing at this same angle of attack. Since we are on a downline, and airspeed has increased on the way down, the plane is, more than likely, flying at that time (a little), and there will be some displacement (briefly) from the down line path. I'm sure you three have this angle of attack and displacement as small as possible. I apreciate your time responding. Let's not waste any more time on this.. let's go fly! sc
Posted on: 6/3/2008 6:23 AM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Snap Rolls - P09
Jason, as long as you are giving inputs here.. it's my 'belief' that a true 1-1/4 snap will have the fuselage still yawed when the snap is complete and down elevator will be needed to get back on line. I think some pilots are doing a 1 snap, and a 1/4 roll based on what I have seen. Any 1-1/4 snap, in my opinion, that comes out heading straight down is not a 1-1/4 snap. Your thoughts? sc
Posted on: 6/2/2008 5:30 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Snap Rolls - P09
I use 2 conditions, 1 for each snap. Providing throws would not do much good as it will depend on plane 'moments' and where the CG is located, as well as how each pilot likes the see the snaps. sc
Posted on: 5/26/2008 12:15 AM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Another Black Magic Maiden
Welcome back Tom... we need to get together before the D7 Champs and do some serious flying. I want another final result like the last time we flew together at the D7 in Fresno! (we'll just be in a different Class). Keep us informed - but I'm sure we'll talk before it gets into writing. sc
Posted on: 5/13/2008 12:03 AM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: More B400 questions, "skipping at startup"
The exact symptom happened to me yesterday - one time, with a brand new battery. I immediately stopped - was not going anywhere anyway, and checked the charge on the battery. It was a bit low, 12.4V, but should have still run. I charged anyway. Plugged it back in, and it worked fine. I have not flown with that battery for several flights, no issues. I belive that when I plugged in this battery, I did not push the battery connectors together very well - this one is harder to plug in than my other batteries. I think the connectors were barely making contact - just the tips were making contact - and almost arcing as the motor pulsed. I am 90% sure this is what happened to me. sc
Posted on: 2/1/2008 6:54 AM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "E-Flite Helicopters"
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RE: E-flite Blade 400 why so special?
Have read the posts.. T-R this and that.. I flew gas heli's many years back - sold my 60 sized Legend and got the B400 - this will be perfect for me, and others, that are learning (again) and have other RC interests - my main interest in Pattern - electric, but many pattern guys are picking up little electric heli's for some stick time after the season ends - and for those Saturday
Posted on: 1/26/2008 1:10 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "E-Flite Helicopters"
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RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
Thanks, not sure these relate to my numbers, but I have it close. sc
Posted on: 1/24/2008 12:24 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "E-Flite Helicopters"
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RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
What is the standard NORMAL pitch curve? I have played with mine a bit and want to double check the setting. I have L = 38 2 = 43 3 = 50 4 = 75 H = 100 Thanks sc
Posted on: 1/23/2008 8:13 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "E-Flite Helicopters"
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RE: "Blade 400" DX6i timer function not working
Had my blade 400 3D for about 2 hours now.. any hints for getting the canopy on and off with the battery in place? Seems to take a long time.. maybe I'll get use to it, but seems difficult to hit those small gromet holes. sc
Posted on: 1/22/2008 11:21 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "E-Flite Helicopters"
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RE: K-Factor
Hey Chris, pleased to see you reaching out like this - hope some respond.. thanks for trying to make the KFactor a 'better place' sc
Posted on: 11/28/2007 10:41 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: 2007 F3A World Championships
Sorted data.. ONDA Tetsuo JPN 600.4 SILVESTRI Sebastiano ITA 581.8 SCHULMAN Jason USA 569 AKIBA Yoichiro JPN 567.4 DIERICKX Benoit BEL 565.2 MATT Wolfgang LIE 564.8 ROUX Christophe FRA 562.6 SOMENZINI Quique USA 559.4 WISSINGER Markus GER 557 ULSAMER Guenther GER 555.4 SUZUKI Koji JPN 554.8 JESKY Andrew USA 553.8 FRIGGERI Luca ITA 552.6 BESCHORNER Bernd GER 548 CARRIER Stephane FRA 546.8 RUBIN Marc SUI 539.2 FREMMING Ola NOR 534.2 MAYR Gerhard AUT 533 FILGAS Erich AUT 527.8 DANKSAGMULLER Helmut AUT 526 MARQUET Philippe BEL 526 BLOODWORTH Bill AUS 522.4 ROUX Benoit FRA 521.4 VLIET Danny NED 515.6 LUNDSTROM David SWE 515 WOLFFE Marc RSA 513 ZARDINI Jean-Pierre BEL 512.4 SCHADEN Bernhard SUI 512 COLOMBO Marcelo ARG 503.4 ROBINSON Shane IRL 496.6 ZHENDI Huang CHN 494.4 SELVA Massimo SMR 490.4 NORTHEAST Chad CAN 489.6 COSTA Antonio POR 486.6 VAGHY Dezso CAN 484.2 MANDRIKA Victor RUS 484 AMBROGGI Leonardo ARG 483.8 PASINI Sylvain SUI 483.6 JACKSON Keith GBR 483.4 BUTUZOV Sergey RUS 478.4 CORAM Steve AUS 478 GRASELLI Andrea ITA 472 KURI Pablo ECU 468.2 CROSSMAN Adam AUS 467.4 YONG Duan CHN 467.4 HARROP John GBR 466 LAU Alex HKG 464.6 NIETO Daniel ARG 463.95 KEANE Ray IRL 463.2 GERMUSHUYS Carel RSA 461 CATON Kevin GBR 459.6 ALMEIDA Xavier ECU 458.2 REYES Rene CHI 454.8 BYOUNG Jun KOR 454.75 REAVILLE Dave CAN 452.2 AGUILAR Joaquin ECU 451 WONG Adrian HKG 441.8 BARRET Noel IRL 438 MOY William BRA 433.4 WENTZEL Ian RSA 430.8 HEE Lee KOR 425 MARTINEZ Roberto COL 424 GARESE Patricio CHI 410.6 Yu Sung CHI 410.4 Carlos Silva VEN 407.6 KAY Li HKG 405.8 Kang Seo KOR 404.2 Bruno Visconte BRA 398 BAINATHSAH Geoffrey SUR 382.8 HINESTROSA Federico COL 373.2 DANILOV Sergey RUS 372 LOZANO Jorge COL 365.6 YONG Frederick SIN 358.8 Marcos Angelo BRA 351.6 HAGENS Freddy SUR 321.2 TECHAVIPARK Praphon THA 310.05 BAINATHSAH John SUR 10 JUN Zhang CHN 0 CHONG Frederick SIN 0 SUKUMCHAROENJIT Chuchard THA 0 RATTANAPRAROM Natawut THA 0 PEREIRA Alejandro VEN 0
Posted on: 11/12/2007 2:44 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: 2007 F3A World Championships
Ya, so where is the US Blog? I'm happy to hear of others views, but come on US.. how about it! sc
Posted on: 11/11/2007 7:35 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Santa Fe, Argentina Team Hong Kong
Hey A.. glad to find these posts of yours, been looking at Blogs for the last days. Good pictures, I want the CD when you get back home. Try to breathe when you are flying, relax and forget you are at the WORLDS!! It's just another contest.. not! I'll count on a T60 finish as planned. Good luck to you. sc
Posted on: 11/11/2007 3:32 AM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: When will Adrian fly is new Proline?
IT has flown! Hollister tomorrow will be next flights. sc
Posted on: 9/2/2007 8:49 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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Anyone Flying Angles Shadow - EVO?
If anyone is flying an Angels Shadow, EVO, I'd like to compare CG locations. Thanks sc
Posted on: 8/15/2007 4:14 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Ultra Rc Evolution
I have spoken with Brian before - seems like a good guy. I'm sure his intensions are good, but he's clearly caught up in something that is stressful. Family issues? At some point he will respond, it just will not be timely - as we expect. sc
Posted on: 8/14/2007 3:42 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: When will Adrian fly is new Proline?
OK you got me.. I do need an editor.. know any? sc Eli , sit tight, Adrian will have his for sale soon.. in 'as new' condition and never been flown.
Posted on: 8/13/2007 6:04 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: When will Adrian fly is new Proline?
Chris, read again... not me.. I bet I fly my Angel #2 before Mr. Wong flys the Proline. We have a pool going for dates of 1st flight .. $1 / guess.. dates are going fast.. www.adrians_pool.com sc
Posted on: 8/13/2007 1:14 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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When will Adrian fly is new Proline?
Dear Mr. Wong, It's been some time since delivery of your new Proline Pattern Plane. Do you plane to fly this model soon or is it just a 'show' model? Please advise all of us in Nor Cal. ;-) sc
Posted on: 8/12/2007 3:57 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Positive wing incidence
Here are my observations - First, are you referencing wing incidence to the engine thrust line? Is the thrust line referenced to the 0/0 center of the fuselage? Wing incidence will raise or lower the stab flying position. For a given airspeed the wing angle of attack will be the same - change the incidence and the wing will seek the same angle of attack again for that airspeed. The difference is the stab will be higher or lower (as seen in the air) than before. You will then adjust the stabs to seek a 0/0 with new the elevator position. You can then change the engine thrust a bit to get the plane to fly like you want it. The perception of level flight, upright and inverted, can be changed by wing incidence. If you mix in CG changes, the general theory holds, but less wing incidence may be required to make the plane fly level. sc
Posted on: 8/10/2007 1:18 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: ANGEL S
Vladimir Kozlovskiy builds this plane.. vladimir@hobbyservice.ru, I have one, and like it. sc
Posted on: 7/30/2007 10:58 AM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010
I am just glad we got it straight now. I met with Derek a few hours ago, he was not aware the Humpty had 1/2 roll up and down. Suppose many of us would not know this. I'll be sure to tell all my Masters friends it's 1/2 up and down on this Humpty. sc
Posted on: 7/27/2007 4:11 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010
Suppose the key words here are "1/2 rolls up and down"... to date I have not flown a Humpty with 1/2 rolls up and down. I do not think the masters sequence states this. sc
Posted on: 7/27/2007 2:12 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010
Humpty's don't 1/2 roll on the up and down leg sc
Posted on: 7/27/2007 10:53 AM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010
I believe this is incorrect... 8 Eight sided loop from top, INV entry (D) 4 9 Reverse Humpty Bump w/Options from top(1/2 or 1/4 rolls up and down) (T) 3 10 45 degree down with 1-1/2 snap roll (U) 3 11 Stall turn, half rolls, INV entry (T) 2 The 8-sided loop exit's you inverted.. the reverse Humpty exit's you inverted.. the 45 down, 1.5 snap exits you upright, so #11, the stall turn, is not an inverted entry. sc
Posted on: 7/27/2007 10:26 AM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: 2007 Pattern Nats
8 going from Dist 7, California / Arizona. We are excited as the rest... can't wait!!! Our planes leave today, 7/12, we arrive on 7/14 (evening) and pick up the plane on 7/15. Picture is the motor home loaded with the planes and equipment. The D7 web will be putting up daily pictures and some video. We have already started this. Good luck to all! sc
Posted on: 7/12/2007 2:28 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Weight Requirements
I am of the belief that there can be 'too light' and this would show itself in windy conditions. I believe, and this may be my own preference, that a light, say 10lb airframe will not fly as well as an 11.5lb airframe in the wind - and by this I mean wind gusts will affect the 10lb plane more than the 11.5lb plane. Way back when.. (about 10 years ago) there was too light, and this was easy to tell as the airframe was not ridged - there was to much flex in it, between the wings and the stab. Now, with newer technology, I think this flex is gone (yet we see Beryll's being stiffened to prevent twist), but I could see how it might be a problem if you were trying to build a 8lb plane, 2M plane, just as an example. I suppose the leads to, if we raised the weight limit to 13lb, does the plane have an advantage over an 11lb plane in the wind? Perhaps it is in the thumbs? sc
Posted on: 7/9/2007 7:57 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Weight Requirements
Hey Chad, There are some top flyers, by this I mean perhaps in the top 20 in the US, which advocate speed and believe electric can not produce the speed needed in the wind. I'm not going to pick a side on this, but I like my electric speed. I think it's find for all but 5% of any conditions. I think electric has gone through / is going through a transition period of sorts, as many flew very slow and found the wind to be an issue. There is 'too slow' and I think we approached this limit. As new props and motors were developed, I think this is less of an issue now. You state, "in fact most guys were flying setups that are slower than today" which sort of goes to the above point that maybe we were getting too slow ? If most were slower than today, these pilots are flying faster for some reason (today).. they have learned that there may be too slow. Good Luck at this year's Worlds. sc
Posted on: 7/5/2007 5:49 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Weight Requirements
Poetic would have a problem meeting the 11lb limit. This was a great entry level 2M pattern plane... for electrics so more pattern pilots can make weight with less expensive planes and electrics can fly fast enough in 90% of any pattern competition, if set up properly. sc
Posted on: 7/5/2007 3:13 PM by Author "Pattern_is_Fun" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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