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RE: Removing cam bearing from a YS DZ 160 Crankcase
Thanks Adrian and Dave, Finally got the little sucker out geez what a struggle. I have certainly learnt a lesson never to leave a perfectly running YS engine in a model for an extended period- in my case 6 years and then expect it to run. Yes Dave it has been a while. I had a bit of a break to concentrate on my business and I finally may get some time for myself to do a bit of flying. I have gone to the dark side and am in the process of getting an electric contra model up and running. I simply want to get some flying under my belt to try and get my fingers working again - best way is to get my old IC model flying so I can enjoy my 12-15 minute flights before I have to settle into 8 minute flights. My havent things changed in 6 years - 2.4G radios, electric F3A planes OMG everyone speaks a completely new lingo at the flying field. Screw drivers and spanners have been replaced with multimeters and soldering irons. What will the next 10 years hold? Cheers, Peter
Posted on: 9/8/2012 12:37 AM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11221509

YSDZ 160 cam bearing removal from crankcase
I am in the middle of trying to remove a cam Boca Bearings has the most comprehensive RC Bearing search engine on the internet! bearing from a DZ 160 Crankcase. Anyone got any suggestions how too! -
Posted on: 9/7/2012 6:12 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "YS Engines Support"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11221249

Removing cam bearing from a YS DZ 160 Crankcase
I am in the middle of trying to remove a cam bearing from a DZ 160 Crankcase. Anyone got any suggestions how too! - Peter
Posted on: 9/7/2012 5:59 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11221233

RE: Which Battery Charger to buy
Have there been any new developments with battery chargers. What is the current charger of choice within the F3A ranks?
Posted on: 8/16/2012 4:37 AM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11195530

RE: F3A Results - SPOILER
Hi Dave, What a well written post. I enjoyed reading every word of it and it explained a lot of factors which I had thought I understood.
Posted on: 8/12/2012 2:57 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11190678

RE: F3A Results - SPOILER
A picture of the model can be found here http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/072412.pdf
Posted on: 7/26/2012 9:05 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11170801

RE: Contra Rotating Propeller Drive for f3a 2m Pattern Planes
Hi Brenner, How was the downline braking with the modified propeller and gearset combination. Regards, Peter
Posted on: 4/16/2012 2:47 AM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11043802

RE: Contra Rotating Propeller Drive for f3a 2m Pattern Planes
I have taken delivery of my Contra Drive and I must say the quality of workmanship and attention to detail is outstanding. Well done Brenner and team for making this product available to the comsumer market. I have a question in relation to the Hyde mount and Neu F3A motor setup when using the Contra Drive. The following photos show the complete assembly with the drive, motor and mount. I assume that the Hyde mount is installed as shown however the mount covers the cooling fan section of the motor. I cant rotate the mount 180 degrees because the hub of the contra drive is too wide for the mount. Am I using the correct Hyde mount? If I am have I assembled all the components correctly? If all the above are correct will cooling be and issue in this configuration or do I have to modify the mount? Thx Peter
Posted on: 4/13/2012 10:02 AM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11040309

RE: Da-Ja-Vu Build thread
The carbon wing tube in my CA DeJaVu model is quite loose especially in the wing sockets. Does anyone know if PBG have a drop in replacement which fits nice and snug (and possibly save some weight at the same time) Secondly, Is the single wing bolt adequate? I find when I tighten the front wing bolt the rear of the wing pulls away from the fuse slightly - I guessing this is due to the loose wing tube in socket. Thx
Posted on: 3/30/2012 5:20 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11021754

RE: NSRCA Candidate Rules Proposal Survey is available
I have not followed this thread closely however I could not help notice the amount of emotion which is being generated about this particular issue. Tha fact that this is an AMA matter then it really isnt any of my business to comment as I live in another country however I dont understand why the AMA simply cannot raise it's weight limits by say 5% which would probably allow most of the 2x2m meter models which are slightly over weight to compete. I would think more than 90% of overweight cases would fall within this bracket. As for the models which are heavier then I dont really think it will matter as most of those modellers may not be serious enough or interested enough to compete at the nats. I cannot see any case where raising this limit by 250grams will disadvantage the guy who wants to fly a model which weighs less than 5000 grams (glow, electric or gas). At least if a guy who currently flys F3A wants to compete at the nats with an overweight model he can at least fly in Masters class (assuming this is allowed) were the weight limits could be slightly higher. Given the current financial climate and the dwindling number of aerobatic flyers we need to do whatever we can to keep the ranks. Everyone benefits if more aeromodellers are involved in Aerobatics! Just seems like common sense to me - Peter Australia
Posted on: 3/29/2012 11:11 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11020341

RE: Experience of using high LiPo charge rates
Hi Chris, Been some time since we have spoken - hope you are keeping well. Can you tell me what you are using for power supplies? regards, Peter P Brisbane
Posted on: 3/20/2012 12:53 AM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11007933

RE: Contra Rotating Propeller Drive for f3a 2m Pattern Planes
Hi Dave, How is your research progressing in relation to rudder throw deflections and trailing edge thickness. I am in the process of putting a model together to suit the contra and would find this information useful for initial rudder throw deflection settings.
Posted on: 3/20/2012 12:47 AM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11007930

RE: Which Battery Charger to buy
Hi All, Anyone have any experience with the Thunder Power 820CD charger (good or bad) I started this thread a while back and I am finally in a postion to purchase - are there any other new products worth considering? Thx Peter
Posted on: 3/15/2012 3:21 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11001590

RE: FUTABA BRUSHLESS SERVOS
What is the current Futaba brushless servo of choice for a 2x2 electric F3A model. Suggestions for elevator x 2 mini and rudder.
Posted on: 2/29/2012 5:10 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10982220

RE: Contra Rotating Propeller Drive for f3a 2m Pattern Planes
What is the preferred mounting approach with the Neu motor and contra-drive?
Posted on: 2/23/2012 12:14 AM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10971713

RE: Contra Rotating Propeller Drive for f3a 2m Pattern Planes
Hi Tony, The link does not seem to work!
Posted on: 2/22/2012 1:38 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10971021

RE: Contra Rotating Propeller Drive for f3a 2m Pattern Planes
Hi Chip, Can you give details of the soft mount you are using. I assume it is a hyde mount however do you need to modify it to accomodate the Contra Drive unit.
Posted on: 2/15/2012 1:41 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10960486

RE: Contra Rotating Propeller Drive for f3a 2m Pattern Planes
Hi Tony, Any chance you can get someone to video one of your flights as I am eager to see how they perform.
Posted on: 1/31/2012 9:42 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10937866

RE: Contra Rotating Propeller Drive for f3a 2m Pattern Planes
Are there any videos of the Brenner "Contra Drive"unit in action? How does the aircraft speed with this drive compare to a single prop setup?
Posted on: 1/30/2012 4:03 AM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10934714

RE: YS DZ 175 advice required
Hi Ed thanks for the Tech-Aero Ultra IBEC tip. I like it! I assume it gets it power directly from the RX connector bus. I realise EMF noise is no longer an issue due to the opto coupling. For this application is there any benefit having it connected directly to battery as my battery has 2 power leads. What is the fuel consumption comparison between (170-175 CDI) and DZ160. What I am trying to say is there any benefit swapping out my existing 20oz tank for something smaller? Thx Peter
Posted on: 1/8/2012 2:53 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10898394

RE: YS DZ 175 advice required
What are most people doing who still fly YS CDI in relation to powering the CDI unit. Are you using a seperate battery pack or do you share between CDI and flight control systems? I have seen a number of threads about this topic but they are all a little out of date. 6 years ago I was using a 2500maH Lithium Ion battery with a Jerrico regulator and futaba switch. I have just purchased a new Lithium Ion battery but would like suggestions about the rest of the power system should I decide to use a YS CDI equipped engine. Thx Peter
Posted on: 1/7/2012 1:44 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10896635

RE: YS DZ 175 advice required
Thanks for the suggestion I mix all my fuel and therefore I have had oil and nitro under storage as well as methanol. I will purchase new Methanol however the Nitro and oil should be fine. Thx
Posted on: 1/5/2012 5:24 AM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10892596

RE: YS DZ 175 advice required
Hey Brett, I cant seem to find any information on a comp in Tin Can Bay in February. What date is the comp being held? I would like to get there if I can who else is coming? Thx Peter
Posted on: 1/5/2012 2:09 AM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10892476

RE: YS DZ 175 advice required
Hi all, Thanks for all the replies. I wasnt expecting this thread to break out into a Electric Vs YS power debate however it makes for very interesting reading. My situation is that I currently have a very good F3A model which will get me back to a level of skill to compete in F3A however I need to put some time into flying which is the key for me at this stage. For the people that know me I have been a long time campaigner of YS 4 Strokes and I have had a very good run with them over thousands of flights for many years. My 160's are giving me some problems because I never stored them correctly prior to leaving the hobby 6 years ago and unfortunately I dont have the time or interest to get them sorted when parts are going to cost me as mush as 20% of the cost of a new engine. The electrics do appeal to me (especially the contra) however I dont want to make a choice at this stage as the flying is what really is important for me. My current model is setup for YS power and the conversion to electric will be difficult. Certainly this debate has got me thinking and asking myself if buying glow is the right thing to do. If I bought another YS I could be flying in 1-2 weeks however if I went electric it will be another 3-6 months by the time I get back into the air by the time I get a new airframe together and familiarise myself with electrics. Fuel costs are not a consideration as I have a large stock of fuel which is still good to use. Thx Peter
Posted on: 1/4/2012 2:09 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10891696

YS DZ 175 advice required
Hi all, It has been some time since flying pattern and therefore I need to get an existing model in the air to teach myself how to fly again. I have been looking at the electric options (which there are numerous) an I feel I am not ready to make a choice as to what to use at this stage. I have been trying to get a couple of old DZ160's sorted out to fly but I am not comfortable with the reliability and dont have the time to sort them out for the time being. I am thinking of purchasing a DZ 175 CDI (cheaper than what I paid for 160DZ's 8 years ago Hmm) however I need some advice 1)What props are people using on this engine 2)How much oil 3)How much nitro 4)Spark plug life? any additional information which will assist me to transition from a DZ160 setup. Thx Peter
Posted on: 1/3/2012 4:51 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10890231

YS 160DZ Help
I have been out of the game for almost 6 years and I am slowly trying to get my old gear working again before I take the electric route. I have 2 DZ 160 engines which were running perfectly before I stopped flying. I left them sitting around in the box without preparing them for extended storage (big mistake) and they have since locked up. I have managed to pull everything apart and clean carefully replaced all gaskets, o rings etc. I believe I now have a pump problem however I am not sure how to test correctly. The engine will pump fuel through when I turn it over with the starter but only when I pinch the line briefly between pump and carburator. This action cause the pump to start working. Once I get the pump to work it does not seem to have enough pressure to push fuel all the way into the injector. I have checked all the cavities in the carb and needle valve assembly and I am certain I dont have any blockages in this area. I have also checked the injector and check valve in the head and all appears to be working fine. I did a simply test by connecting the fuel line from pump directly into the head and the engine ran abeit very rich to confirm nothing else was wrong with the engine. My immediate observation is the pump is not producing enough pressure but I dont know how to test this easily or what part of the pump needs to be looked at more closely. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Peter
Posted on: 10/26/2011 10:47 AM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "YS Engines Support"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10783588

YS DZ160 Help
Sorry for posting this here but I felt I would get better assistance from people who are are familiar with the workings of this engine. As most of you have gone electric I doubt many would visit the YS forum any more. I have been out of the game for almost 6 years and I am slowly trying to get my old gear working again before I take the electric route. I have 2 DZ 160 engines which were running perfectly before I stopped flying. I left them sitting around in the box without preparing them for extended storage (big mistake) and they have since locked up. I have managed to pull everything apart and clean carefully replaced all gaskets, o rings etc. I believe I now have a pump problem however I am not sure how to test correctly. The engine will pump fuel through when I turn it over with the starter but only when I pinch the line briefly between pump and carburator. This action cause the pump to start working. Once I get the pump to work it does not seem to have enough pressure to push fuel all the way into the injector. I have checked all the cavities in the carb and needle valve assembly and I am certain I dont have any blockages in this area. I have also checked the injector and check valve in the head and all appears to be working fine. I did a simply test by connecting the fuel line from pump directly into the head and the engine ran abeit very rich to confirm nothing else was wrong with the engine. My immediate observation is the pump is not producing enough pressure but I dont know how to test this easily or what part of the pump needs to be looked at more closely. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Peter
Posted on: 10/26/2011 10:46 AM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10783587

RE: De-Ja-Vu WC
Hi Chip, Can you give us a flight report on the new wings. Appreciate if you could also post some up close pictures of the new wings and hinge line detail. How do the SFG attach to these wings
Posted on: 5/28/2011 6:10 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10545647

RE: Contra Rotating Propeller Drive for f3a 2m Pattern Planes
Hi Brenner, What is the weight penalty using your contra drive unit and props Vs a typical electric setup say C50 with gearbox APC prop and spinner. I currently dont fly electric so I dont have anything to compare to but I am in the process of getting a model together and your product is being considered if I can get the model at the correct weight.
Posted on: 5/16/2011 4:21 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10524009

RE: Futaba 18MZ ???
Bugger! Guess what I just bought!!!
Posted on: 5/12/2011 2:06 PM by Author "PeterP" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10516233


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