Tri Village R/Cers Pattern Contest, June 29-30, 2013
the pattern bug back. I'm looking forward to seeing everyone next week! Best regards, Ryan
Posted on: 6/18/2013 10:20 AM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Brio - Glow to Electric
With batteries.
Posted on: 6/13/2013 8:24 AM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: 3 blade prop for Electric ?
I always preferred four-blade props on my YSs. I would be interested to see how one of those would perform on an electric motor.
Posted on: 6/12/2013 9:08 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: Brio - Glow to Electric
Kelly, did you CNC those standoffs? I would be interested to see how stiff your motor is once mounted. I am kind of curious to do something similar to one of my airplanes.
Posted on: 6/12/2013 9:06 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: any inexpensive good pattern planes?
Bob, The Splendor is BNF Basic only. The one of the ideas behind the airplane is to showcase the AR635, so it is only being offered with the receiver. If you want to stick another receiver in the airplane, you will have to remove the one that is installed. That being said, it really helps the airplane lock in and takes away a lot of the turbulence that would otherwise blow the airplane around.
Posted on: 6/3/2013 7:07 AM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Andersonville
[quote]ORIGINAL: jetmech43 Lets just say its one of the US team members I will leave it at that, maybe its not my place to say [/quote] Well, the team is Andrew, Jason, and Brett with Chip as the alternate. As I believe Brett is living in Jacksonville now, I would assume that Jason and Brett were present at the contest. 50/50 shot from there. I think Brett recently lost the Alferma, so I really hope that it wasn't him. It sucks either way, but these guys can show up to a big contest having finished an airplane the day before, and still do well. One team member, I believe, has finished building an airplane at a contest before.
Posted on: 6/3/2013 6:59 AM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Sebart 2M Wind SPro
Robert, Is the airplane in question the full composite, or does it have the built-up flying surfaces? If built-up, you could probably carfefully heat and apply tension to the stab in the opposite direction of the twist to remove it. It may be worth a shot.
Posted on: 5/31/2013 9:41 AM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: The new model from CPLR!
I'm willing to bet that the ventral T-canalizer makes the entire package very effective. It looks like the area of the two canalizers is equal to the one canalizer of the latest iteration of the Axiome. This airplane looks "right" the last Axiome with the tiny Saphiresqe wing and giant canalizer didn't look good on the ground or in the air. This airplane probably kicks substantial ass. I'm interested to hear about the new YS as well.
Posted on: 5/20/2013 12:54 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: What's the story with JR 2.4ghz?
[quote]ORIGINAL: burtona What is going on with JR? I've heard rumors of JR switching away from the DSM2 (Spektrum) to something else. What will happent to support for existing JR? Will there be conversions available if the newer stuff is different/better? I've seen nothing in any of the on-line or published info. Dave [/quote] DMSS was launched at Toledo.
Posted on: 9/9/2012 7:13 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Am I the only one who flies pattern with no mixes in their plane ??
Come wow us at E-jets tomorrow.
Posted on: 9/7/2012 8:27 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: What's the story with JR 2.4ghz?
It's fine. Unless you are going to be flying in areas of extremely high bandwidth saturation (Joe Nall, IRCHA), then you should be fine. Even then, it's not a death warrant, but there is a little more security to the frequency agile systems in those environments.
Posted on: 9/7/2012 8:23 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Post all your
Joe, Did you buy them new or used? Sounds like one has simply been re-geared; to the best of my recollection, the 3517 has always been a metal gear servo.
Posted on: 9/4/2012 9:56 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Electric Vs Engine.
[quote]ORIGINAL: apereira In the WC at Muncie, I don't remember if it was form Belgium or Norway, but at the start of the first P round a pilot's plane bursted into flames (electric) and the aircraft was destroyed, someone actually had to dump an ice cooler inside the plane to try to estinguish the flames, worst part, he had only one airplane, he lost the entire WC, and the airplane, very sad. [/quote] That was Henning Jorkjend from Norway.
Posted on: 8/25/2012 8:32 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Illini Jets 2012
Any information regarding Illini Jets as far as registration and hotel information, e-mail me at manderson@horizonhobby.com. Missie
Posted on: 8/14/2012 9:01 AM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: F3A Results - SPOILER
[quote]ORIGINAL: danamania [quote]ORIGINAL: highfly3D I don't know how many people are working on F3A designs using wind tunnel & other experiments & then come up with a design. I am not saying about anyone here, but i never heard people do intense research on F3A. I know there are many who are very interested in doing this. [/quote] Interesting question. Please a few follow-on questions for the group in the know: Are some of today's newer pattern models a product of the designer setting some design goals with parameters, running calculations to optimize those parameters using available aerodynamic formulae and software, then producing the design with CAD/CAM technology from prototype through finished product (in Asia perhaps)? Any need for wind tunnel testing given that many pattern aircraft are variations on a few well-known and loved forms? And what actually is the level of rigor outside of an informed, trial-and-error, I think I'll try this design process described by the most successful modelers whose work is state-of-the-art? A lot of 20th century technolgy enriching our lives today came from both art and science: Aeronautic jargon aside, what does the state-of-the-science design process look like? [/quote] Very similar to what the Wright brothers saw.
Posted on: 8/7/2012 5:32 AM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Long Servo Leads
Bob, Are you stripping the separate signal wire off of another roll, or are you sourcing 4-wire ribbons? Thanks! Ryan
Posted on: 7/13/2012 11:15 AM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Servo Mounting Questions
[quote]ORIGINAL: gaRCfield Hi All, I have a few questions: 1) Why are servos always mounted with the spline at the end farthest from the control surface? To reduce the angles of the push rod? Does it make sense, or is it a bad idea, to install with spline at the surface end to reduce push rod length and weight? 2) What is the best method to properly align and temporarily secure the servo for marking/pre-drilling? 3) What is the best method to mark/pre-drill the servo holes? 4) When and where is HD servo extension wire really needed? Thank you, Joe [/quote] 1. It often has to do with how long the pushrod will be. If given the opportunity, I try to install servos such that the pushrod is the shortest that it realistically can be. Geometry should remain unaffected as pushrod length has no bearing on geometry, even reversing a servo it will remain the same. 2. I've actually gotten in the habit of measuring the holes on the servo and measuring them out on the surface. You can also shim with some relatively solid material (hard balsa, for example) to block the servo in place. I find this more difficult and time consuming to achieve, therefore I measure for one-off circumstances. If I am doing something like an IMAC airplane that has all identical-sized servo boxes and servos, I will build a dummy servo that's the same size as the opening to mark the holes, but it's not very effective for an airplane with different sized servos, or one off work. With you trimming your servo boxes back on your Integral, you may end up with slightly different sized openings anyway, so this will render that further useless. 3. A good eye and a pin vise. If you have a snap punch, that can help, but they generally have so much spring tension that you can cause damage to the surface before it snaps. I use a pin vise to drill the holes, run a screw in the hole to cut threads, and then wick thin CA in the threads to harden them. 4. If you are using really high torque servos. You lose more through the connectors than you do with the wire. If you are sharing common power leads for dual elevator servos, it may be a good idea to run the HD servo wire, but for most other purposes, standard 24 AWG wire should be fine.
Posted on: 7/3/2012 2:26 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Composite-ARF Integral, kinda build thread
[quote]ORIGINAL: gaRCfield I picked the plane up this weekend - thanks Verne and Bob! 1) I am still undecided about motor selection. I want light weight and reliable. My choices are Plettenberg 25-12 Evo, Neutral F3A, and Hacker C50 (non comp). I do have a Neu 1512 that I can use as a backup if there was ever an issue with the Neu F3A, so down time would be minimal. The Pletty 25 is an 18.4 oz outrunner that meets the required specs, but I don't see a lot of field usage, nor know about service. I imagine the Hacker is reliable and I know about getting it serviced, but if the c50 is enough, why is there a comp version for $300 extra? , 2) I'm working through servo selection. Not sure if I want to stay with one brand, or mix Futaba and JR for the lighted possible combination. This may depend on whether or not the 9411 will fit in the ailerons; it will br close as the lite ply is cut close to 1.5in long. JR has a cored servo that is a direct drop-in in the stab (ds831 i think). It is inexpensive and light but so far, my favorite servos (very smooth feeling) have been coreless. That being said I have little experience with JR (821 only) and no experience with Futaba. [/quote] Joe, I've put together four Integrals, and the elevator servo size in the stab is sized for a mini servo, but the rails are a little long on each side, so they have to be cut back 2-3mm on each rail. I've used JR since practically day 1, so I can give you a run down of servos that I would recommend. For a standard regulated setup: (2) JR DS9411 for ailerons (2) JR DS3421 or DS3517 for elevator (1) JR DS 8411 (I've been using this for years and have found no power defecit) for rudder For an HV setup: (2) JR DS8411 HV for ailerons (2) JR DS 3717 HV for elevator (1) JR DS 8911 for rudder (while many do, we do not endorse running an 8711 on 2S LiPo voltage, and certainly not for the 8411) My Vanquish has some new JR servos in it... (2) JR MP91T for ailerons (standard servo case footprint, low profile, ungodly amount of torque, .25oz or so heavier than 9411s) (2) JR DS3717 for elevator (same as recommended for aforementioned HV setup) (1) JR MPH81T (linear hall effect sensing servo, again stupid power, wanted to try something new and wanted to run all HV, had access to these) The micro servo that I presume you are referencing (DS368) while a great servo, is not a good choice for elevators. I used them exclusively on throttle, but they are only a three pole motor and are cored. I am not overly versed in Futaba's servos, but I believe the standard before the BLS servos came along has been: (2) 9550 (or 9551s) for ailerons (2) 9650 for elevators (1) 9156 on rudder I hope this helps. Good luck!
Posted on: 6/25/2012 9:11 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: New Mystic
Absolutely beautiful, Robert! I really love that airplane, and yours is a beautiful example of it. Any internal shots?
Posted on: 6/17/2012 1:10 AM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: No Fly area - St. Charles, Illinois Fri- Sat?
[quote]ORIGINAL: Silent-AV8R [quote]ORIGINAL: llindsey1965 oh it is ok for silent and the others to say bad things about Romney  but dont touch obama    WTF [/quote] I said nothing bad about anyone. I simply pointed out that the ''who'' of the President has nothing to do with TFRs. They started right after 9/11. The SS and DHS prevailed upon the FAA to expand the use of them for VIP travel. You probably will not notice them unless you are someplace the President is going. If Romney becomes President then I suspect he will spend time in the new house he is building in La Jolla. There will no doubt be a TFR there when he does. So like I said, the ''who'' has nothing to do with it. It is the ''where'' that the President is traveling. That the FAA includes model airplanes in these things is beyond absurd. The AMA has tried to get them to relax that restriction, but so far the FAA has not shown any willingness to do so. [/quote] Agreed. I feel this is similar to gun control; only the law-abiding citizens will respect the TFR. If someone is wanting to commit an act of terrorism, breaking a TFR with a model airplane is the least of their concerns (and the least severe of their charges). Romney gets me about as excited as the keyboard I'm typing this post on does. Obama is the same way. Though I am adding to the conversation, I don't believe this is the proper venue to discuss politics.
Posted on: 5/31/2012 11:30 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: CAELESTIA NEW F3A 2011
Functionally, no, as Doug said. Aesthetically, since you are using a tape that doesn't have temperature-activated adhesive, any dirt, grass, and other junk will stick to the adhesive side that is exposed. If it were me, I would probably use covering to seal the hinge lines.
Posted on: 5/31/2012 1:04 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: Proposed 2013/2014 Sequences
[quote]ORIGINAL: J Lachowski [quote]ORIGINAL: rcpattern Matt, I know you are a fairly proficient Advanced pilot, and maybe that is part of the reason it seems boring. I agree that the patterns now are somewhat easier than they should be, but its not the sequence committee's fault entirely. The rules by which they have to play by are rather stringent, and they probably need looked at. The planes, and equipment continue to improve, but the restrictions on the sequences have not changed. I know those guys work their butts off, as I have been a past member of the sequence committee. It is not easy. There are things in both new sequences that I think could be improved, but that will always be the case. Overall, I don't think these new sequences are an issue. I think the bigger issue is that we need a significant change to the Sportsman pattern. Actually, not a change, but go back to a mid 1990's sequence and leave it alone forever. The idea of Sportsman is to introduce new people to pattern, and it should be done in a way that doesn't require a high end pattern plane. I see no reason to ever change the Sporstman pattern. If you can't be competitive with a .40 size sport plane, then there is something wrong with the pattern. Arch [/quote] I would like to suggest one other possibility. Leave Sportsman as a regular class in itself and introduce a new class called ''Clubman'' or ''Novice'' or whatever you might like it to be. I would make it a completely non turnaround pattern. This way any local guy could pick up any old plane with little to no practice and fly it and have fun. Make it say 10 maneuvers. We could use the last pre-turnaround Novice pattern or something pretty similar. [/quote] So would Sportsman be contested at the Nats then?
Posted on: 5/21/2012 12:38 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: What's going on with the NSRCA?
Scott, Do you (or has it historically been the editor's job) format the entire magazine, or is it done at the publisher's, or is the duty split? I would like know just out of curiosity.
Posted on: 5/14/2012 12:53 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: What's going on with the NSRCA?
[quote]ORIGINAL: Doug Cronkhite What you save by going to all electronic delivery is time spent addressing, mailing, stamping, etc. The actual cost of production will change slightly due to a lack of physical materials, but you don't save any time or cost on the actual creation of content, formatting, etc because that all has to be done anyway. [/quote] How much will all that run you? Next to nothing I'm sure. Have you seen our Horizon big book at any events this year? It's got some involved/expensive printing processes, but they are cheap enough than we can afford to give them away. I guess it's all in what the endgame is. Does the NSRCA want to eliminate delays with the K-factor? Do they want to save money? Or do they want to give options to their members? Once you identify that as a reason to modify the delivery format of the magazine, then you can move forward.
Posted on: 5/14/2012 7:12 AM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: SIMLA BUILD THREAD
[quote]ORIGINAL: kingaltair ...I just returned from Greensboro, NC attending a VR/CS ''Glory Days'' event Friday night and Saturday... [/quote] Off topic Duane, but what field is that? I recently moved to Champaign after living most of my life (18+ years) in Greensboro and do not recognize that field.
Posted on: 5/13/2012 4:33 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "Classic RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: What's going on with the NSRCA?
And to answer your question, Don, I would like at the most to see the member being able to choose whether they receive their K-Factor electronically or by mail. Personally, I like having the hard copy (that's not printed from my printer!); but I also still buy CDs just to load onto my iPod so that I have the physical disc. I could be in the minority, but I don't see any compelling reason why the electronic K-factor would save us a substantial sum of money. Perhaps a larger percentage of money due to the size of the organization relative to the distribution costs. If we went to all electronic marketing deliverables at my work (Horizon Hobby, which I would say comprises over half of what we do), we wouldn't save much because of all of the graphic artists that have to actually develop these items. That being said, the cost percentage would be a drop in a bucket because of how large our company is.
Posted on: 5/13/2012 4:27 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: What's going on with the NSRCA?
What do you save with the electronic K-Factor? Printing and shipping? The formatting and production is what takes the time. The production will still be there, unless you change the format to a long Word document that the editor compiles from each of the VP's columns. I don't see the printing and distribution process being the bottleneck here. Who is doing the production of the K-Factor? I presume at the printing facility, as I never saw or heard of proofing rounds when I was VP for a short while in 2008-2009.
Posted on: 5/13/2012 4:23 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: ARIXTRA, new french F3A design
Beautiful result, Fred! I hope that your first flights with it go well!
Posted on: 3/30/2012 10:27 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: NSRCA Candidate Rules Proposal Survey is available
Then you get into issues of pushing the size limit, insufficient tail volume/possible shorter tail moment depending on if the planform was altered, reduced snapping and rolling characteristics if the area comes from a longer span, etc. If you can't get the wings with which the airplane was designed light (not necessarily THE cause for replacing wings in this example, but certainly valid), how are you going to get larger wings equal or lighter weight? The simple thing to do is to buy a good, quality airframe from the onset and be reasonable in your building and setup of it. Personally, I've never had a new airframe, and none of them have had trouble making weight. None of them were particularly featherlight when I acquired them either. None of the new electric 2M airplanes I've put together have been overweight. All of them had wheelpants, the wingtubes they were supplied with, the landing gear they were supplied with, etc. It's not difficult (nor expensive in my experience), and I'm not special. I don't get it. Let me go on to say that I'm sure I've ruffled a few feathers with my comments regarding weight. For that, I apolgize and to all with whom I've entered discourse directly, please know that none of my statements are personal and I harbor no ill feelings. I simply have my viewpoint and it happens to not be congruent with others in this discussion. I entertain any and all conversation public or private and am would love to talk about this.
Posted on: 3/30/2012 10:23 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Extreme Flight Vanquish 2m Build Thread
I would venture to say that it's True Red, HANU866.
Posted on: 3/28/2012 7:35 PM by Author "Ryan Smith" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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