RE: Top Flite Staggerwing
[quote]ORIGINAL: badazzgti03 quick question ....would a Saito 300 Twin work with this model?? http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/300-twin-cyl-aac-with-muffler-z-SAIE300TL#t2 [/quote] The Saito 300 Twin would actually be way to much for this plane. It is physically a large engine. We have a Saito 240 Twin, and it was checked for fit. Way to big. It is also way to heavy, besides being just to much engine. The required prop will not clear the ground, and even a small throttle change would twist it over on it's back. The 300 is designed for much bigger aircraft. It would work great in a Byron Staggerwing, if you could find one, as well as a Ziroli one. This is not to say someone won't insist on trying it. Good luck!!
Posted on: 9/17/2012 4:50 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "ARF or RTF"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
I am not having any problem with the struts themselves, they are holding up well. It's the operating parts of the gears that are creating problems and showing wear, at the bushings and pins, between the frames, mainly. All lock rings and assembly screws are tight, the swivel points are wearing. Some fine nylon washers between the frame and strut holder should help.
Posted on: 9/3/2012 6:34 AM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
Glad to hear you got her flying well, Brad. I've flown mine maybe 6-7 flights so far this summer. Been to hot and windy, or been to busy with other stuff. The plane has performed flawlessly every flight except the one two flights ago. I missed one pin when connecting the retract servo lead when installing the wing, so made the whole flight with the gear hanging out. Definitely slows her down, noticeably. I've got the flaps adjsted just right, finally, and almost all landings are greasers now. This plane is so smooth one approach, only very minor corrections required. I keep the appraoch shallow, not steep, with power ott as I come out of the turn to final. Oiling the pivot points and the sliders on the gear made them operate so much better, don't have any problem with them going up or down. I am going to have to remove them this winter and disassemble them to install washers/bushings at all the pivot points because the premature wear from the soft metals before I started oiling them allows the wheels to move around as much as 1/2 inch on one main. The rough ground/grass of our field, once off the runway doesn't help. I always use the petromat runway for take-offs and landings with this plane, while I use the grass alongside for my Golden Era classics, except the P-6E Hawk. The wheel pants always catch on the grass for some reason, flipping it on touchdown. AArrrgh. Bends the steel motor mount everytime. Going to be redoing that this winter, also.
Posted on: 9/2/2012 4:07 AM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
No modifications done to the figures. As for the cockpit itself, the rear plate and the instrument panel blank must be scratch made. Not included in kit, but required. Also, the instrument panel is not a decal, but rather a printed picture sized to the panel.
Posted on: 8/3/2012 6:13 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
[quote]ORIGINAL: jrf Another question: I have spent two days looking at pilot figures with no success. I am a bit lazy and would like to have a prepainted pilot, but have not found any that will fit. What figure are you guys using? Jim [/quote] Mine is almost identical to Rocketman's.
Posted on: 8/3/2012 3:31 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
Jim, Hi, I'm sure you'll like you Tigercat. Be sure you do ALL the fixes shown in this thread. Almost every kit out there needs them, if not immediately, then after just one or two flights. The dummy motors are still available through Tower Hobbies. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHY66&P=SM They are shown as in stock. As for the color scheme, the Tigercat was only in service for a very short time, from the very end of WWII into Korea. The only color scheme it ever carried was the Dark Sea Blue, The Grren & White markings were carried by the Marine trainer aircraft training the backseater in the radar use for intercept duties. Any other schemes are "fictional" in nature. You could do a fictional drone controller scheme, which would be rather colorful. A Navy "grey/white scheme (Vietnam era) could also be done, but again, it would be fictional. The Navy/Marines did not have that many different basic schemes. Or, you could go earlier, using the Navy's WWII three tone blue scheme. Just some suggestions. Again, be sure and do all the fixes, except the wing center section, altho it probably wouldn't hurt to do if you are ambitious. The one mentioned is the only one that has occurred, so far. All the rest have been found in all aircraft, so far. Enjoy, Don
Posted on: 7/26/2012 7:16 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: Top Flite Staggerwing
I just checked my original receipt from 01/2007, and it was $449.99. (Kit ONLY, NO retracts or extras.) Gives you a starting point. IF I had the money, I'd offer up to $500, plus shipping, but that's just me. And, unfortunately, right now I don't have the funds, in one lump sum, available. I would like to build another one, doing the electric conversion from start. Would be much different this time, knowing what to do, now. Since I have my retracts and all other required parts from my previous model, a bare bones kit would be perfect for my purposes.
Posted on: 7/26/2012 3:47 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "ARF or RTF"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
Quoting Rocketman "Sure, pneumatic retracts have their problems but you can pay a lot of money an buy a new set of strange, weird and quirky problems with electrics." And since electrics use the same framework for the mechanical section of the gear, only replacing the pnuematic part, (air cylinder itself,) any problems with the mechanicals remains, in this case, the soft metal in the bearings and moving parts. I now have enough wear in mine, after less than a dozen flights, that I need to make some washers from very thin plastic/mylar to take up the play in the main block where it rotates on the pins against the side frames. I have almost a 1/4" side "wiggle" movement at the wheels when gear extended. And all screws and pins are properly tightened and locked. And I oil all pivot and sliding points regularly.
Posted on: 7/17/2012 2:43 AM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
Congratulations! Everything went well, we're a guessing. Going to have to forgo Owatonna Electric this year, but may be able to make it to Cedar Rapids Iowa for their big Warbird Weekend. The Tigercat is ready to go. Hope to have the gear fixed in the BH P-40, along with new battery hatch made for the Ryan STA-M, and maybe the P-6E Hawk will be ready, just some minor stuff needed on it. Would like to take the Waco YMF, also, but, it's not a warbird, so we'll leave it home.
Posted on: 7/15/2012 8:28 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
[quote]ORIGINAL: Ian Rehbein Gents, I have read thru most of this forum with interest. There is a wealth of information in this thread to enable anyone to get all the right answers to put a Tiger in the air. Not much talk on electric retracts though. [/quote] Main reason, that I know of, there not being much talk on electric retracts is the current low availability of units in this size class, and, for most of us, the price of the few units that are available. None of which, to my knowledge, fit this aircraft. Most units I've found/investigated, require you to buy the air units, ($300+) then send them in for retrofitting of the electric conversions, another $300+! When electrics become generally available, pre-built, in the $300 range TOTAL, my ears will perk up, but not until. For those of you who can afford it, more power to you, (without prejudice, by the way.) Let those of us in the cheap seats know what you find. I have been investigating somewhat in the conversions, but have found nothing in the general hobby lines, yet. Most everything I find is for smaller models, but more companies are entering the market everyday, and even companies like Robart are beginning to partner with some of the conversion companies to make the gear available in a one step process, for lower prices. More of this will only be good for the hobby.
Posted on: 7/15/2012 6:46 AM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
Both my tanks are same size, the ASM and Robart. One above wing and one below.
Posted on: 6/29/2012 1:16 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
Rocketman, I forgot, you are using ESM retracts, not the ASM units. Mine wouldn't extend all the way, especially the nose gear, until I oiled them. No trouble now. I have also given up on the nose gear door, finally just removing it. I'm pretty sure I'm going to end up staying with the MAS 14x9x3 props in the end. Solid flight, motors do not get warm, nor do ESCs nor batteries, and she has plenty of speed and vertical performance. The higher pitched props have a noticeable drag on performance, and even on 5 cells, the motors are slightly warmer, as well as the batteries. I need to download the logs before they fill up, to see how things are going. I use two medium sized tanks, at 100PSI. I get almost ten cycles, so only have to fill once. Unless I don't get a fitting properly connected, that is.
Posted on: 6/28/2012 7:24 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
Congrats on the annual. Want to fix those retracts so they'll work, up or down? A couple drops of lite oil, "3in1" ,WD-40, whatever. Applly it to the lock slides and the pivot points. Very little required! Viola! No more stubborn retracts! AND, they don't wear the points out so fast! Mine have been flawless since I did this. Mine has been out twice this season, 3 flights. Last flight I tried my cut-down 16x10x3 MAS blades on 5 cells. Cut down to 15". NOT impressed. Have already tried 15x13.5x3 APCs on 5 cells. Also NOT impressed. I still have not tried the APC 15.75x13x3 blades yet. Also cut down to 15". I'm thinking I won't be impressed here, either. The MAS 14x9x3 on 6 cells seems to be by far the best setup. I have to run the bigger blades on 5 cells, because 6 cells draw to many amps. Over 100 on the ground, for all three blades. The 14x9s only pull 85amps on 6 cells. well within limits. Enjoy your bird. Way to windy here, when I don't have to work. Over 100 degrees and 25mph+ winds today and next three.
Posted on: 6/27/2012 2:14 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
Rick, I have the BH .90size P-40 with a Scorpion 4025-12 on 5cells turning the APC 15.75x13 and love it on there. Have a set cut down and ready for flight, just haven't installed them, yet. I've taken them to the field a couple times, just haven't mounted them. Keep getting busy with other stuff. Have the 5 cell setup available, if ground test is to high a draw. I guess I should do a balance check with 5cells each on board. Those 2 cells would affect it the way I mount them. Just in case. I did screw the nose cone on so I could add weight quickly, if necessary.
Posted on: 5/29/2012 7:14 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
[size=3][/size]Rick, Have you flown yours with the APC props yet? I haven't, yet. Have wanted to, but wind been hurricane strength around here for almost two months. I did get one flight in on a rare nearly calm day last month, flew well, but I'm thinking maybe a little more with the APCs.Pretty sure I'll have to drop the batts to 5S on the rimfire 1.20s. I need to leave acouple planes at home when I go out, so I'll spend more time doing the test, lol. Good to see you've got her flying well. Don
Posted on: 5/29/2012 6:15 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
[quote]ORIGINAL: Dangaras You might be providing a link from your logged in profile that may not work for a public viewer. [color=#990000]I had to search for the set of characters after the '=' sign to find the video[/color]. [/quote] That worked for me, too. Excellent flight, Brad
Posted on: 4/9/2012 6:43 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
Congratulations, Brad. Glad to hear everything went well. Hope to have mine back in the air, soon, now that flying season is returning here in Iowa. Need to check landing gear mounts for cracks, that's about it here. Hope your's has many more successful flights before needing major surgery again. Don
Posted on: 4/3/2012 6:57 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
Looking real good there, Brad. I'm sure you'll enjoy this one much more, being more confident in it's construction, and knowing the necessary mods were done up front.
Posted on: 2/29/2012 12:20 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
Softshell I would suggest checking the longeronbrackets behind the wing in the fuselage. Sounds like they may have broken loose. Mine was very twitchy when they came loose. Check back in this thread, starting at post #383. The repairs are well shown by a couple different owners. When these break, the entire rear of the fuselage can twist. Don't forget to check the skin where it comes together under the fuse right behind the wing. If you haven't done any of the suggested mods in this thread, It is highly recommended that you do all of them, from the start. The only one that seems to be a one of a kind is the wing center section coming undone because the piece of strengthening carbon fibre rod wasn't glued properly. All the rest have been found to be commonly needed on all airframes. While looking for the repairs, I saw the photos of your Turbocat mods, again. Looks very nice.
Posted on: 2/3/2012 7:22 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
David, Sorry to hear your Tiger went in. But it looks like it may have been good in the end. Really like what you are doing. Bet that's going to be a beautiful bird when done. I'm seeing lots of good ideas there. Excellent pics, also. I will be plenty busy doing some of those mods myself, especially the landing gear block replacements. I also have to draw a set of working wing plans for my Top Flight Staggerwing. It went in because the ELECTRIC motor shut off at the wrong time! Luckily, only the wings were damaged, (destroyed!) Sudden, and as yet, unexplained battery voltage DROP, (NOT loss!) from 40volts to under 3 volts, until just before impact during glide back to runway. Didn't make the runway, which resulted in the crash. (The onboard electronic log showed the voltage drop/return.) My next build is planned to be the Ziroli D-18/C-45 Twin Beech. Will be a while just getting everything bought. Good luck with your new one, David. And interesting story about mister ASM.
Posted on: 2/1/2012 7:43 AM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: Top Flite Staggerwing
@ Joel Oh, that's PURTY!!!
Posted on: 1/25/2012 8:20 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "ARF or RTF"
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RE: Top Flite Staggerwing
[quote]ORIGINAL: mobyal Well, it's getting there. Servos all hooked up, engine/cowl mounted. Retracts mounted, but have been sent to Down and Locked for conversion to electric. Should have them back later this week. A couple of questions. [color=#FF0000]What sort of method do you all use to get the flap servo leads up to the receiver area to hook them up at the field. Looks like it could be a PITA![/color] And second, I'd like to mount my batteries for flite pack and gear on the firewall , as together they weigh a little over a pound, but don't think they're going to fit. Any tips for getting them mounted right behind the firewall? Pretty tight in there. [:@] Won't be too much longer before it's ready to go! [/quote] I used a long (12") Y connector. The ends just exit the fuse/wing joints. I use a rubber band to keep them available when the wings are removed. Yeh, sometimes it's a PIA when the rubberband slips off and I have to fish for the leads.
Posted on: 1/25/2012 8:19 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "ARF or RTF"
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RE: ASM F-7F Tigercat
Mine is put away for the winter, but just as an aside to the gear doors actuation... Do it exactly as Brad's photos show for the main gear doors. The wheels close them, the WIND (airflow over/thru the nacelles,) is what opens them when they are released/pushed open by the wheels going down. Do use Brad's adjustable linkage, as you will find they need quite a bit of tinkering to get right. As for the nose gear door, I ended up removing mine. It kept breaking off the linkage brackets where the "wire" thingy attaches to the door. In the air the wind keeps it closed, but when handling the airframe when dissassembled for transportation, it keeps falling down in the way. You cannot see it when flying, anyway. Good luck. And good luck to you, also, Brad.
Posted on: 1/22/2012 2:35 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "Twin & Multi Engine RC Aircraft"
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RE: Top Flite Staggerwing
[quote]ORIGINAL: kochj [quote]ORIGINAL: sbrackets Not sure about the plane being nose heavy right yet. Because I measured the C.G at 5.5'' back from the leading edge of the fiberglass fairing edge at the wing joint where the balsa wing joins the fuselage. And the plane sat level on the (Great planes)balancer device. I added 15oz. of lead to the nose. The only thing that makes me think that it is nose heavy is that 3/4'' up elevator was marginal for take off and did not leave me with a good feeling for landing. I was thinking the whole time during my flight that I wasn't going to have enough elevator to pull out of a steep decent on a landing approach. Once airborn the plane needed a lot of up elevator to fly straight and level. I did manage to trim her out for level flight but noticed after landing that my elevator with the transmitter stick in the neutral position, the elevator was now is sitting with about 2-3 degrees of up elevator. So thats how she is flying at straight and level flight. Does this sound like it's nose heavy to you all? I guess it is, but she balances out perfect straight at 5.5'' C.G. You got me! I know a way to find out if she is nose heavy is to fly upside down to see how the nose reacts then. But on the maiden flight I was just trying to keep her in the air and trim her out, Not doing anything nothing fancy. Jim [/quote] Jim.... I have the Great planes balancer...and I would SWEAR that when I balanced my planes SPOT ON in the MIDDle of the recomended range....It was ALWAYS nose heavy.... One of the planes was soo nose heavy, when I landed the prop struck the ground because it squashed the main gear apon landing...as I ran out of elevator on a 3D plane!!!!....hmmm.. I will be adding all I can get out of the elevator for my 3rd rate...or 3D rate...(in earobatic plane) when I do the Test flight.... Perhaps it is the balancer?? [/quote] It's impossible for the balancer to cause any type of imbalance. The only thing that can is incorrect measuring or positioning. Also, remember, in a fuel powered airplane, you are balancing with an empty tank, and flying with a full to empty tank. IE, the first take-off is done in a nose heavy condition, as well as any landings done while there is still an appreciative amount of fuel in tank. Use an oversize tank, larger than originally designed for, and you have extra built in nose heavyness. The designed balance point is, in most cases, very close to the break point when empty. However, some designers actually put the point safely forward to keep the number of "uncontrollable design" comments on the low side, since those are "usually" from inexperienced fliers. If you find a particular aircraft seems nose heavy AFTER the first flight, move it back a little at a time. But don't try it on the maiden. (My experienced suggestion, not a written in stone, do it or die rule.)
Posted on: 1/17/2012 9:19 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "ARF or RTF"
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RE: Top Flite Staggerwing
[quote]ORIGINAL: mobyal I have one for sale, new/unassembled w/ retracts. It's posted here on RCU if anyone's interested. Al [/quote] [size=5][/size]AAARRRRGGGHH[size=2][/size] and I'm on layoff right now. [:(][&o]
Posted on: 1/17/2012 11:52 AM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "ARF or RTF"
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RE: Top Flite Staggerwing
[quote]ORIGINAL: njmheli Hi Don / Jim. Many thanks for your advice.....funny,in the photo,I agree it does look too nose ''heavy'', but in ''real-life'' it didn't look as much as that !!!I have to change out one of the batteries at the ''firewall'',so will do that first and then see what weight I can remove to get her SLIGHTLY nose down. I have re-checked all the control throws and they are as the ''high'' rates as stated in the manual + 1/4''max,I 've added to them.Expo is set at 30%.......so hope that will be good. Thank you again for your advice,all very much appreciated.......watch this space for anothe c of g pic !!!! Cheers............Nick (UK). [/quote] Sounding good. use the horizontal stab as the "level" point. Your movements and expo should give you a nice flight. Enjoy.
Posted on: 1/14/2012 3:19 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "ARF or RTF"
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RE: Top Flite Staggerwing
[quote]ORIGINAL: sbrackets I'D say it's too nose heavy per the photo. And will use a lot of runway to take off. And will need up trim for level flight. Just like mine. If I were you I would remove some weight in the nose till she's perfectly level. But that's just me speeking. Jim [/quote] I agree, it is too nose heavy, however, personally, for first flight, I would remove enough to get it ALMOST level. Only SLIGHTLY nose down. Just for the first flight, so it won't be to pitch sensetive. Mine tended to tip stall far to quickly until I returned to slight nose down. Just my 2 cents Don
Posted on: 1/14/2012 12:05 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "ARF or RTF"
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RE: Top Flite Staggerwing
Nick, looking good. Take your CG measurement right on the outer rib where the wing joins to it. You should be perfect there. Your marked position looks good. Go easy on adding more elvaor movement, unless you have a 3 position switch, and want to add more for taxiing on grass only. Switch back to listed max movement just before starting take-off run. If you want to add a little more, 1/4-3/8 inch max. 30% expo good. Good luck on the maiden, hopefully you will get video. Don
Posted on: 1/7/2012 4:10 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "ARF or RTF"
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RE: Top Flite Staggerwing
Mine worked jus fine on mine, other than having the tail over the edge of the table. Wonder if the earlier ones came with shorter rods.
Posted on: 12/20/2011 9:13 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "ARF or RTF"
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RE: Top Flite Staggerwing
I just pulled mine out of winter storage and repair, to measure it for you. My CG is at the 5.5" mark, my field finger test points might be back 1/8". Mine is electric, so the batteries can be moved slightly to adjust. My elevator movement is set at 3/4" up and down, 5/8 up on dual rate, but I never use it. I use 40%expo on all settings to smooth out the center, normal flying area. The only time full elevator is ever used is... I don't think I've ever used it on this plane, except when taxiing. This plane is properly flown at high speed, wide open manuevers, not full throw for anything. I did look closely at my elevator "center". It might be 1/32" up. Checked the centering on the transmitter, and it shows 6% up trim, so I could still be a smidgen nose heavy. But I like the way it flies there. My first flight, the maiden, I did not turn it upside down. I went straight up from the point and held it under top wing. [b][/b][i][/i][u][/u][size=6][/size][size=7]WRONG!![/size][size=3][/size][u][/u][i][/i][b][/b] It came out very tailheavy. Only my long years of experience and my R/C helicopter experience, (FAST thumbs!) allowed me to save it. It took two lbs on the firewall to balance. That was with the OS 1.60 TwinFS. With my electric setup, on 10cell lipos, I still have 8 oz on the motor mounts. During it's rebuild, (new wings required,) I may strip all the fuse stuff in the rear of the fuse, also. The only one required is the tailwheel mount. I use the air ram to operate it, but it's up on the servo mount rail in front. Pushrod going back.
Posted on: 12/20/2011 1:40 PM by Author "Staggerflyer" in the forum "ARF or RTF"
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