RE: KAOS 60 Elevator Question
[quote]ORIGINAL: MMcConville Typically if any differential is needed, slightly more down than up is desirable for aerobatics. Odd thing about the Kaos is the forward slanted horn on the bottom side of the elevator gives more up than down. A bit counter intuitive but still, its a proven formula on that model so I wouldnt change it. Again, with computer radios its a bit of a moot point anyway, you can dial whatever differential you want in about 2 seconds. Gotta love technology! [/quote] Mike, This is an interesting post. (A little bit off topic but maybe interesting to read.) I do use always one servo for the both ailerons, so this will never be my problem but; Read. When using two servo's for the ailerons and program the differential in the radio and not in the linking. When making a fast ailerons input, faster as the speed of the servo's Than the downgoing aileron servo does reach the endposition earlier (less throw to do) than the upgoing aileron servo. So as long as the up going aileron is moving after that you do not have the right differential. (little bit flapperon for a while!) Some points to think about, Make the differential for the ailerons in the linking and fine adjustment in the computer radio. Use one servo with the differential in the linking when you do use less fast servo's, they need much less torque and power because of the aerodynamical balance of the ailerons. Your both ailerons always have the right speed!! Cees
Posted on: 10/31/2009 6:28 AM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: KAOS 60 Elevator Question
; the old proportionals "s>l>o>w>e>r". What???? Taurus long tail? Yes because
Posted on: 10/31/2009 5:38 AM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: KAOS 60 Elevator Question
Hello Dave, You, from the Wright Flyer I will never forget Taurus Flyer photographic memory
Posted on: 10/30/2009 7:39 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: KAOS 60 Elevator Question
; was the adjustment for the dimension of the loops, An example, the Taurus, Ed Kazmirski, but already
Posted on: 10/30/2009 6:09 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Redesign and reconstruction of the Oldest Taurus on Earth
Gents Because I did have some backstage conversation an extra note. I use plywood birche 3/32" or balsa 1/8" wingribs, that is qhy I make these holes in the ribs to make them less heavy. Do not make these holes in the standard sheeted balsa wingribs. Cees
Posted on: 10/30/2009 3:54 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Classic Fundamentals...a tutorial...post your building techniques HERE!
, just as the history of the Taurus. Cees
Posted on: 10/30/2009 2:52 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Classic Fundamentals...a tutorial...post your building techniques HERE!
[quote]ORIGINAL: BERUSTY Classic Fundamentals...Cees and desist! Dearest Cees, May I be so bold as to request you post comments of a constructive and positive nature. It seems this may be simply too much for your giant brain to embrace. You and your smarmy cat might consider a group more worthy of your contribution...I understand that model railroading is dedicated to producing ''yesterday'' in profound detail. Formerly respectful of your contributions, Rusty Dose Supporter of the tirelessly polite! [/quote] Berusty, The project you did make jokes about did cost my hundreds, maybe thousands of hours. Read, your own posts about that. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=8359267 Do not start a thread with my name in it anymore. [b]"Just ASK CEES"...complex questions answered HERE!"[/b] Cees
Posted on: 10/29/2009 8:30 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Redesign and reconstruction of the Oldest Taurus on Earth
For the TE of the wing look at post 120, nearly the same construction, 10 mm balsa with grooves for the ribs. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=8150471 In the position of the hinges we can mount a reinforcement on the TE stock (doubler?). Cees
Posted on: 10/29/2009 11:44 AM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Redesign and reconstruction of the Oldest Taurus on Earth
Gents, I did get a PM and so a suggestion. To make a sheeted LE for our Taurus wing can be a problem, but I use an easy (and more heavy) solution. Make a massive LE stock to cut of from 10 mm sheet balsa, medium quality (3/8 “?) Make grooves in the LE stock with my saw, 3 mm depth. 2 mm wide on the position of the ribs. Cut of the first 5 mm from the ribs, see the drawing, green curved front
Posted on: 10/29/2009 10:24 AM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Classic Fundamentals...a tutorial...post your building techniques HERE!
Berusty, Now we are on level, [b]Classic Fundamentals...between the cracks... [/b] It cannot be a problem to show both sides I have Hanna my quality and investment controller and what I do she says it is alright, that's the only important fact for me. Let's continue : Did you google for the "constant speed prop"? Cees
Posted on: 10/29/2009 10:02 AM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Classic Fundamentals...a tutorial...post your building techniques HERE!
of my Taurus or Orion it is easy to make the second modification and I did make some pictures for you. Remove... all the linking of a Taurus and Orion are “in� the fuselage and/or wing, without the only one
Posted on: 10/29/2009 7:07 AM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Classic Fundamentals...a tutorial...post your building techniques HERE!
[quote]ORIGINAL: BERUSTY Building techniques...''Just ASK BERUSTY'' My number one work bench currently has a Deception in process based on the assistance of Scott Anderson's fine work as discussed in a previous post. Carving blocks of balsa wood for cowls- [i]Post shortened by Taurus Flyer[/i] Rusty Dose Team Futaba [/quote] Berusty, I do built my cowls from birch plywood
Posted on: 10/28/2009 7:51 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Classic Fundamentals...a tutorial...post your building techniques HERE!
Berusty, [b]Classic Fundamentals...between the cracks...[/b] When I look to your pictures about the cowling maybe you only can remove the cowling after remove the engine or not? When I compare the hatch with my Orion it is easy to make the first modification and I did make a picture for you. Remove the topsite of the hatch and glue this topside against the fire wall, together with the mounting blocks with thread for the screws I use M3 metric thread. The side surfaces of the cowI l did make of 1/8 birch plywood to make a rugged mounting possible with the three screws. I did mak a former (and more but not visible) near the firewall in the hatch to make the hatch strong. Top by me (and bottom for you) is curfed 2 mm biirche plywood , but you can balsa for that (reinforged with epoxy 2 comp glue?) Edit about grain of the wood against the firewall. BTW the wood against the firewall, top part of the old cowl, (some plywood front layer against balsa), does have the grain square on the wood of the existing top block, it is better to keep out the fuel of the top block of the tank compartment. Sometimes I mount a complete 2 mm former in front on the firewall to protect all the wood of the fuselage against fuel (as example the triangle stocks fuselage sides etc.. Cees
Posted on: 10/28/2009 7:39 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Redesign and reconstruction of the Oldest Taurus on Earth
[quote]ORIGINAL: kingaltair I've been working on pictures taken at the day of the Taurus's donation ceremony, and the VR/CS to AMA Museum ownership ceremony itself. The Taurus... beautiful?[:)] Some of the people involved in the VR/CS purchase of Ed's personal Taurus are featured in the pictures. One picture shows VR/CS Presient Bob Noll by himself with the Taurus pre
Posted on: 10/27/2009 5:59 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Classic Fundamentals...a tutorial...post your building techniques HERE!
after some FOD. Taurus Flyer Pianowire Team Multiplex ___________________________________ Taurus Flyer...Classic Fundamentals...between the cracks...Taurus Flyer’s Orion? My bench has a number of working levels including the primary wood working level, an electronics level, a finish prep level, a maintenance level and on this moment a mechanical installation level on top. In the Netherlands we do
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RE: My new Taurus
Mike, Congratulations, After about 40 years of building and operating you discover the real plane. I wish you many happy flights. Cees
Posted on: 10/24/2009 5:18 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: post some pictures of your pattern plane!!
[quote]ORIGINAL: sledge_78 Taurus flyer, I just receive the plans to build a Ed Kazmirski ''Taurus''. A question I have for you is: The original Taurus was equipped with a .45...? Would a .46 be enough? I have both, I was just wondering why you selected a .61. Your Taurus looks... Gerry, I didn’t read your post earlier.(send you a PM as reminder for this post) About the Taurus
Posted on: 10/24/2009 3:30 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Redesign and reconstruction of the Oldest Taurus on Earth
the tip . Because I was running the program I already did make the ribs for a second Taurus wing, see... in the Ed Kazmirski's Taurus thread in the past I did start this thread especially to show how... of the Ed Kazmriski’s Taurus thread, about the (lack of) accuracy. [size=3][b]Top Flite Taurus [/b... is as long as we see on the Top Flite Taurus drawing. [size=3][b]Taurus T2[/b][/size] Post 1142 http
Posted on: 10/21/2009 2:00 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Redesign and reconstruction of the Oldest Taurus on Earth
of the reconstruction of the Oldest Taurus on Earth, the first contest Taurus Ed did build to use himself already in 1961. It is the prototype of the later designed Frank Mijers plan Taurus and the Top Flite Taurus. I did make this thread to know the dimensions of this Taurus because no other information was found...;personnal" planes of Ed Kazmirski. [b]Ed Kazmirski’s Taurus Thread results:[/b] Proved
Posted on: 10/14/2009 5:19 AM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Dirty Birdy Build Thread
[quote]ORIGINAL: doxilia [quote]ORIGINAL: Taurus Flyer Why use such a heavy materials to stop some drops? Cees [/quote] Because this is a high wear area and durability of the retract bay is paramount to my mind (not that I'm saying cloth is mandatory). I also don't consider finishing glass cloth such a ''heavy material''. I've also never attempted to [i]cover
Posted on: 10/14/2009 2:55 AM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Dirty Birdy Build Thread
[quote]ORIGINAL: doxilia [quote]ORIGINAL: Taurus Flyer Still one little tip to think about, that never ending story, when I look on any place in the wheel bay and I can see the top sheeting I am not happy, think about starting in wet weather and what the wheels will do with that water trowing it against the top sheeting of the wing? Cees [/quote] This is where glass cloth and epoxy come into play
Posted on: 10/14/2009 2:34 AM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Kaos and the SPA Masters
Gents, I will explain you the joke, the way I did see it. I do see a�top pilot� and I read a long story, cutting away as most as possible of his plane to win the game, and it was fun. Later I do see a member removing color of the pictures with that plane, to be better. I am the inventor and remove a complete person. What was bad on that? Winning the game in cutting away? Because we do have another way of humor I did remove the complete pictures (even that!) , nearly nobody did see it, and so what is still the problem? But how can we bring a joke, to write “Warning, this is a joke?� even that isn’t understood. We are not as bad as you think do not forget that, impressed also not. I design anything I want to win and do not need an example to make a duck. Cees, always starts to be a friend but there are limits.
Posted on: 10/14/2009 2:02 AM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Dirty Birdy Build Thread
Feff, What do you think yourself? I see you did a great job but also give the response to stimulate the communication. I am an inventor, so for me it is an never ending story, and for that do not try to follow me!! When my Orion is finished again all the "normal"aileron (no frise) linking is hide in the wing coupled with one central servo to be belly landing proof. How I do that will still be my secret in the future, because I did not see it anybody doing on RCU just as many other features I do have in my planes. I will see the next pictures with pleasure. Still one little tip to think about, that never ending story, when I look on any place in the wheel bay and I can see the top sheeting I am not happy, think about starting in wet weather and what the wheels will do with that water trowing it against the top sheeting of the wing? A never ending story Nice project, nice plane , nice friend Cees
Posted on: 10/14/2009 1:45 AM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Kaos and the SPA Masters
[quote]ORIGINAL: RMcL [quote]ORIGINAL: Taurus Flyer Picture deleted Nice story Cees [/quote] Taurus Flyer Always nice to know where one stands!  I guess you can kind of look at me as Jason's ''staff assistant''.  <img src=''http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/fckeditor/editor/images/smiley/msn/shades_smile.gif'' alt='''' />
Posted on: 10/13/2009 7:07 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Redesign and reconstruction of the Oldest Taurus on Earth
Jeff, For a while "Off Toplc." (Sort of, redesigned) Sagitta 900 MH32 pylon airfoil, no ailerons. My brother uses this model as glider, it normally is. It's a winner, but not with the old Eppler 205. I think these planes do have too much dihedral to use ailerons, it also generates induced drag. I also do not have airbrakes as the Sagitta normally has, I use the Elektrical propulsion also to brake. No paint, no extra weight, silk and dope. So, and now again "On topic" Cheers Cees
Posted on: 10/13/2009 6:36 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Pincher or Thumber
[quote]ORIGINAL: jeffsend I fly pinch but have tried both. Pinch is more comfortable for me and I like that I rarely lose the stick and make that ''doioing'' sound that I hate. I was surprised that for the most part,I could fly just as well either way with a little practice,but thumbs still feels sloppier to me. I don't see using expo as a crutch or a way to cover up poor technique unless perhaps it is being used on a trainer. It seems to me that we typically set up our planes these days with way more throw than they really need to achieve the ability to do radical maneuvers. [i][b]Imagine if you set your car up so a quarter turn of the steering wheel would make the wheels go 90 degrees. Then you'd probably NEED expo just to be able to drive normal.[/b] [/i]I see expo as a way to have high and low rates available to you,without having to stop and flip a switch. Edit: [b]Ooops....When I posted this,I didn't realize It was in the pattern forum. So some of my comments were made with sport and 3d flying in mind.[/b][/quote] jeffsend, Ooops you did ask for it!! Do not underestimate the human body I do drive a recumbent clone like this "Flevo Racer", look also for "Flevo Bike" See the example: http://members.chello.nl/d.diederik/recumbent/flevoracer/plans/index.htm It is a bycicle with “thrust direction control�. Propulsion is with the legs with the frontwheel and steering is with the legs with the frontwheel (LOL). So I have to use my legs “high torque� for propulsion and “low torque� for steering. I can ride that bycicle with my eyes closed or reading a roadmap and for the same reason I do not need any expo for my tumbs to fly any plane, not even a little bit, it would disturb my control when I have to combine the inputs because with expo the ratio/gains are ganging. Another profit is, I do not have to adjust and not to learn, my body does. Learning drive that recumbent is a little bit more complicated as normal, but when known you can have attention for more important cases. (that map). The position of my legs do not have any relationshop with any "neutral" position in there movement. here are some rubber bands to neutralize the weight of the drive train, that's all. I normally can maintain a speed of about 6 - 25 km/h without using my hands also not in the city. To start I do not need my hands and the torque of my legs is much too high to use my hands, so they are only to activate the brakes. Cycling is as thumbing only for that I do not need my eyes just as not for flying a real glider. (Of course you have to observate not to hit anything and keep neutral) Cees
Posted on: 10/13/2009 6:14 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Pattern Flying"
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RE: Dirty Birdy Build Thread
Jeff, We understand each other. I do want to show the tricks, not want to force to use them. A Gram scale I not use for construction only for selection of materials, You cannot measure the strength with that When you try to keep the cross section of every part you change the same as in the old situation and grain direction, then you nearly cannot do it wrong. That also was the reason of the channel of the pianowire, I look in all the pictures and drawings for the tricks and calculate the dimensions of the spars for minimum cross section. Cees
Posted on: 10/13/2009 3:32 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Dirty Birdy Build Thread
Jeff, That wasn't the message, only when doubling the spar, I only can tell you the whole story, I have to. If I didn't people would have say: xxxxxxx What you do isn't my case. Normally we cut also all he "too much wood" away that isn't usefull for strength. Think about what Ed Gregger did write in this thread, these are the little secrets. Post 48 page 2 of this thread, "Master pattern pilots seldom shared their flying secrets, and especially back then" I show the details in my own thread, so not have to hitch hike anymore, an example, see post 633 page 26. Jeff, this was also my last input about the retracts and spars, success with the construction Cees
Posted on: 10/13/2009 3:07 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Redesign and reconstruction of the Oldest Taurus on Earth
Gents, A detail of how to not make your pattern plane too heavy. A part of the plans of Frank Mijers already visible on 9/2/2008 in post 731 in the Ed Kazmirski's thread. These are details you can find when you know were you have to look for. They cut away as most as possible to keep the weight low, look the red oval, you recognize the mounting spar of the maingear. When I show, I only can show it all, do with it wathever you want, but this is classic pattern. Cees
Posted on: 10/13/2009 2:56 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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RE: Kaos and the SPA Masters
[quote]ORIGINAL: Jeff Worsham [quote]ORIGINAL: Taurus Flyer Sorry, I could not resist. Took one of the man out of the photo>>> Nice story Cees [/quote] You know what, (I hope I'm not out of line here, and if I am I'll erase this post) but I've got to ask ''Cees, who do you think you are?'' [/quote] Jeff, I did delete the picture, Cees
Posted on: 10/13/2009 2:04 PM by Author "Taurus Flyer" in the forum "Classic Pattern Flying"
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