RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
Sometimes I like it upside down...why...because it usaully means we were going way to fast....
Posted on: 8/30/2006 9:46 AM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
Hey Outlaw...to solve your issue unless you want to paint yourself... here is how I painted my first R/C boat for free. Go to your local bodyshops in your town. Walk in with your boat in hand "have it ready to start incase they ask[:D]" and tell the owner or shop manager that you would like to get your boat painted. Ask him if he will give a discount, if you let him logo your boat with his painters name or company name saying he painted it. Most case I found the shop owner ends up buying a boat and paints yours for near nothing, my first one was free, but my second one was 20 bucks. Pick a small shop who wants there name seen...try it you wont believe what you will come up with...another hint...tell them they can even paint with a color they have mixed if you like the color...it is waste to them if they dont use it right away in most cases...matter of fact...me and Mike went to body shop afew weeks ago and got the paint for one of our boats FREE...and sealer too...we had five boxes of paint to choose from... Now as far as what paint can be used. Use automotive paint that has a harder. Tuff stuff. No rattle can, no brush on. Harbour freight sell a paint guy kit for 29.00 and it really is a good one for the money. Two guns..we paint alot with the cheapy...works well.
Posted on: 8/29/2006 8:52 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
[quote]t munn how does the os engine compare to the stock engine in the boat?[/quote] How does it compare Mike? It's a real O.S. No comparision[:D] [quote]The flex cable for the Miss Vegas is .124. I think Octura also sells cable in that size range. [/quote] That is the correct shaft size, but we recommend you get the .156...in true news here...with a over stock Vegas "real O.S." you will snap the stock driveshaft in time....its like placing a 454 big block on a S-10 rear end...wont last. When we started making driveshafts we changed the cable to .156 for this reason, not to mention the shaft fits our coupler with out shim.....124 is weak for a 18...Proboat uses 1/8 on 15 motor, this is two of the Vegas shafts. As far as your seach for parts on a AquaCraft Tug...Tower, good luck, but we do know someone who has one for sale, dont know the price...the whole tug..not sure if the spot light works[:D], but was tried as a recovery boat at our pond, this idea was shelled when it rolled over while towing a boat in..still like new. GREASING the drive shaft...I grease like its free....go out run hard three times 18 to 24 laps IMPBA course....pack grease...Grease serves two purposes...heat reduction on driveshaft and the grease keeps water from climing the shaft tube. Not to mention lubirication. We remove our teflon tubing...it carries no use really...if it gets a burr...it spins with shaft...DRag!!!! VIBRATION.....VIBRATION Mention many times in this forum...I have spoke on this many times. The Vegas coupler is a super coupler, just made from cheap brass. if it was stainless...wow what a product. So as I said before Jerry said...Vegas will come with a new one...The problem with brass is its soft. Machinist I have shown the stock coupler to have a point. Brass is soft and when spun or put under stress it heats. When cooper get hot it moves to a desired shape. When your motor shuts off and heat is released..the brass nut changes shape. I tested a coupler months ago with a mic..and it was 1 to 3 thousandths out of shape each time the boat was ran. I marked each side of the nut with a different number to make sure the nut was being read the same after each run. There are ten couplers out there that will work, but the stock driveshaft in to small.. If you lose the stock coupler, you lose alot of vibration..even the boat sounds cleaner. FLYWHEELS....Leave it alone...it is the heart of the crank and if you go drill holes in it...you will be buying bearings...or lets say new motor. It not only lets the motor run smooth at low rpm, it releives the crank of real stress. Its a balanced weight with meaning. Without it, you would be buying a motor. It does not slow the engine..it helps it. If you look you will see the flywheel is partly over the rear bearing. Any stress that comes from the drive line is reduced by the flywheel...instead of flowing thru the crank to the connecting rod. Works like a spinning top...if you put a peice of gum on one side of the top and try to spin it...it will not spin long. There is one cool thing about the Vegas flywheel...you can use electric start with the stock one... GO VEGAS!!!!!
Posted on: 8/29/2006 6:32 AM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: fuel proofing
[quote]i have noticed while reading these threads that people are talking about putting a epoxy coating down on the hull. what is the reason for this. and could you give me a specific name brand to use and where to get it at. oh and also how do i go about applying it. do i have to pull everything out of the boat? [/quote] I have read this whole post and to answer your question with out telling you ten ways to do it. The reason it is painted, epoxyed, special painted or what ever you come up with...is to make clean up easier. Yes no matter your choice of coating, remove the interior of your Vegas before applying anything. Personally I use epoxy. I would never poor epoxy in a boat and swish it around, or use boat fiberglass resin. you only need a thin layer of epoxy or a good coat of automotive paint. single stage paint works well from Nason. Availiable for near nothing at your auto part paint store. About 8 bucks a pint for white plus 12 for hardner. Epoxy is cheaper, but pooring it in and getting it to thick will cause it to crack and delaminate. also make your Vegas heavy. Just my thoughts...and experience Also some people cant spell but have good intentions. look at ab lincoln...he couldnt spell either, but did some great things..
Posted on: 8/29/2006 3:24 AM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: What fuel and nitro and oil should you run in a .21 motor and what glow plug should I run with?
Shucks...aw well...catch you at another one. Cant wait. Speaking of glaciers...I do have a idea for Nitro snow mobiles, god we are Twisted[;)]
Posted on: 8/29/2006 3:05 AM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
[quote]hay Did I hear someone say they were needing a rigger? Dirty is that you needing one? Im gonna get one as soon as funds let me. BUT if your gonna be around here?? let me know ill hit home depot and slap my OS on a chunk of pink foam carved with my pocket knife to look like a rigger with some dixi-cup sponsons and woop ya! LOL [/quote] Mike lay off the 50% with no oil....he is going to case a rigger with his new Vegas...i think.. Ok the blue andrew....i know a airbrusher in Wichita...he works at TLR, but not in Wis. but we will let the new Pink Vegas say the word[:D] But with rivets and all...do you plan to drive it or shelf it for looks...that would be nice, gave me idea, but blues not my color. i would use a stamp brush to paint the rivets, because there would be 822 rivets measuring the area of boat to be covered. [:D]
Posted on: 8/29/2006 12:30 AM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: What fuel and nitro and oil should you run in a .21 motor and what glow plug should I run with?
SideWinder all the way baby. Mike is right we run 40 and 50% fuel in all boats. Like Russ said depends on your wallet. Here is what I found, so you may want to take this as advice, since I burn a average of a gallon a week and more when we test boats. I love 50%, but 40% is cheaper for really the same effect. We have not seen any real difference in the performance to mention. Off the subject, But Jerry will you be at Evansville Sept. 23-24, How about you Russ? Aw Grim to..dont forget him, just wondering. If so can we get alittle Vegas show down going...hint hint, unlimited Vegas?
Posted on: 8/28/2006 11:53 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: Thunder Cat 31
[quote]Yea, but it has be sharpened and balanced and the boat has to be running real good for it to work. At least on 20% that is. Mine has trouble revving up with it. And when it does it seems to catch air and flip. [/quote] I agree with ron check you strut depth...this is critical to run proper. but if you are blowing out quickly, you might want to throw some negative on the strut to point the nose down a bit. And I would boost my nitro a bit...Mike runs 40% and does very well.
Posted on: 8/28/2006 11:40 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: Thunder Cat 31
[quote]Well, the bottom line going to the carb where it is connected to the tank leaks on mine. Use wire and twist it around it tight, thats what I did to prevent it from leaking. [/quote] Here might be a better cure for your leak. The wire may cut into your line due to vibration. If you will cut off a piece of fuel 1/8 in length, then place the piece of tubing over the end of a closed pair of needle nose pliers. Open the needle nose to stretch out the tubing, then take your fuel line and place it thru the center of your stretched out tubing and release the needle nose. You should have your 1/8 over the very end of your fuel..then connect it to the tank...no leak you should find.
Posted on: 8/28/2006 11:35 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: Thunder Cat 31
[quote]ANY ONE FOUND THE PERFECT PROP FOR THE THUNDER CAT? [/quote] Perfect prop for the Kat is 225...but not on 20%...Mike has tested many props on the TC 31...and I would say hes got the fastest Kat and master a perfect prop. But we hope in a couple day it will be our Kat[:D] A Twisted Kitty sounds good to me.
Posted on: 8/28/2006 11:28 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: [Awaiting Approval]
Dirty did you say watch out riggers here I come...hey we case down 3.5 cats here...go get a rigger...get video....that would be sweet...but stay off the bank[:)] Or put some tires on your Vegas....
Posted on: 8/28/2006 10:49 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
I am a water junkie so NAVY BABY....I have some Navy stars from plane I will send by mail if you want them...dont know your idea for scheme, but let us know....you be Navy...I'll be Mary Kay....[:'(]
Posted on: 8/28/2006 10:43 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
We use the Macs 18 tuned pipe...till Mr. Cooper gets us the 15-21 tuned pipe, designed for RTR's thanks to us...This should be good...he made a certian boat we have in the shop...HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUL $%#. Tuned pipe is the key to a well running boat... We will post every Vegas photo of her new look and design...for every one to follow...no problem. P.S. Piper, went back and seen no post on your racing your Vegas..but may have missed it...also went to your club website..[link=http://www.geocities.com/ptproptwisters/]ptproptwisters[/link]. No date or is it hidden....me and Mike look, but no luck...can you post the date here since we can find it....thanks...oh ya and my original question was....do you guys support RTR's at this race.
Posted on: 8/28/2006 10:42 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
I wonder if thats real...cheap for some house of color....even for 4 oz. I beleive I will go with the floresent pink with purple race flag lay out airbrushed...and alittle twisted lettering to boot...aw ya we are installing a new radio box to....so we can exhaust over the radio box out the back...new pipe set up..to increase them R's on straights...will post pics this week of the build.
Posted on: 8/27/2006 10:43 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
My Vegas is on a IV bag, but thats because she getting cosmedic surgery....deciding on what motor I want in her, also we are creating a step in the hull to give more lift and stream lining the drive shaft for less drag....I also think I will pick up the lost idea Mike had...a PINK Vegas...Here a pole question...Would you sell your boat if you got beat by a pink Vegas...
Posted on: 8/27/2006 10:15 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: [Awaiting Approval]
Chuck has Vegas he will race....priceless, whens the next club race? Do you guys support RTR races? Let us know.
Posted on: 8/27/2006 9:55 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
IV Bags will work with gas only not Nitro fuel...dont try...we have and its like putting thinner in a stirofoam cup but slower...they would work but Nitro fuel eats them, the ones I have seen....Darn it[:D]
Posted on: 8/27/2006 6:59 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
[quote]Hey james how do you like that for Vibrations [/quote] Dont know what you mean, but we dont like Vibration.
Posted on: 8/27/2006 4:02 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
Dirty, Looking into your motor change, I suggest you put some length on the black hose out the back, not on your coupler. If you make the pipe longer you wont get the right back pressure. Not knowing how your pipe manifold will come out of the motor, I know out the back, but what is angle?...if it rides high or low. If the pipe exhaust manifold hook up is high you can heat the pipe lightly and bend to the down position. Be sure not to get to hot...its alum. Throw up some pipe manifold pics to see which set up would help. Photos say a million words... Is it like this photo?
Posted on: 8/27/2006 10:38 AM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
Here is one quick note on the Vegas motor....NEVER trust it new....reason? Every Vegas motor we have recieved has been full of trash, just like the inside of the boat....I beleive one of Mikes motors couple of weeks ago had metal in it....This would have been a nitemare if he started it....we break down every motor on recieval...to make sure its clean and well oil before we break it in....in the shop on engine stand....One of the other things that can save you alot of bull...is a good oil content in your fuel.....and make sure you oil her after a day of running before you store it...I do it after every run, but I over do it all....[:D]
Posted on: 8/27/2006 12:24 AM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
LOOKS KILLER OUTLAW!!!! Nice Work[:D]
Posted on: 8/26/2006 4:57 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
It is your choice but its safe to remove your tubing in driveshaft....the old guys believe its a drag item in your boat...and so do I, since I seen mine spinning with shaft. Without it in your boat...you just get alittle water up the tube and a free to spin driveshaft. There are a couple thing that happen in the driveshaft area you want to stop. Drive line shaking. This is when you R up and the drive line rattles in the drive tube. The less shaft shaking you have the faster you willl go. If a driveshaft vibrates...you lose power. the teflon tube will help this on the small stock shaft. But with a bigger shaft, you will lose this shake to almost none. This is the same for your engine. On our BM 40 we started with a rubber mount engine stand, we changed to a solid mount..and got a major speed difference because of losing all the vibration in the drive train. In our shop last nite we were talking about straight lining the Vegas drive train to increase speed, we will be coming with a coupler less drive line for the Vegas in the next month. This week has been busy on the phone...and everyones question has been...How do we keep the water out of the Vegas? The fix for this simple...1/4 inch drill bit. Drill you a hole in the port side and a lower hole on the starboard side. Put the holes as close to the floor as you can to insure every last drop of water leaves the boat. Leave the hole open so water can remove its self under way....Dont worry if you die out there in the pond, you wont sink...But a dry Vegas is a happy Vegas. Adding a fail safe to your boat [:D] If you will spend 20 bucks and get a five cell pack...problem solved if you keep em charged, you wont a have a boat out of control...Ask Mike about your battery pack...first thing he changes in any boat. In our BM 40 we had the stock 4 pack plastic battery box, like in Vegas, we got with radio. The four pack could not turn the 100 oz. servor at high speed...with the four pack the servo was only using 50 oz. of its 100 oz. ability. We wondered why the boat would not turn....he he he...not enough power to servo...[:D]
Posted on: 8/26/2006 9:14 AM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
Done alittle reading on the flywheel...if you drill holes in the fly wheel...you will change the weight. according to performance book..the fly wheel should weigh the same or more then the front of the crank..if you cut the crank connecting rod end off. It is all in the balance...but if you choose to drill holes, ...dont do it with a dremel....LOL Yes shane with tubing the .156 will fit real nice, and is stronger too....
Posted on: 8/25/2006 11:32 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
Videos dont lie...the snorkel works... Dirty, Sorry to hear about your boat...I have done the samething months ago....dead batteries the Vegas becomes a missle on the loose...
Posted on: 8/25/2006 10:23 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
Nice avatar Massey.... Miss Elam...one bad $%# boat.[>:]
Posted on: 8/25/2006 1:26 AM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
Hey Miss Vegas glad we could help...hope your issue is fixed, dont let the Vegas become a dust nat...till winter..
Posted on: 8/24/2006 9:24 AM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
[quote]need some help my vegas doesn't seem to be turning right any more. had the electronic's box out of it. when i took it out i disconnected the steering linkage (white piece) on the top of the rudder. not sure what happened when i put it back together. it looks right but again i'm not sure. would anyone have a picture of the proper set up or be able to tell me what it is. when the boat is at half speed it seems to steer ok. when at full speed it barely turns at all. also the front sponsons seem to be riding high under full speed. it seems like only the very back of them are riding in the water. if anyone can help with this problem it would be great Thanks Rob [/quote] Hello Miss Vegas....have you checked your battieries lately? Sounds as though you run out of power to turn rudder at high speed...no tork in servo. Listening to you talk....sounds like your linkage is fine if it moves at slow speed....all you need to do is make sure it travels back and forth without obstruction. As far as the way she rides...here are some pics of what we cruise like... Our Finley Vegas is getting a Twisted Make Over....New ideas have arised...Watch out Evansville[:D] Mr. Frost, your welcome...and glad we could help...hows the water flow and hitting turtles is Ok now....[>:]
Posted on: 8/23/2006 11:59 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
The pipe being cut is a choice we choose only because we found shorter pipe more R's. We cut our pipe a 1/2 inch from the stock end that butts to exhaust manifold. Now as far as full we run 50% right out of the box...O.S. motors love nitro...now with Jerry his thoughts are 40% less cost over 50% with the same effect....so save 7 dollars. makes sense to me, but we have 50 in supply..so we use it, with a good return on power. Now as far as painting the pipe..to things to consider...will it come off with nitro fuel...and are you trying to cool the compartment or cool the pipe? If you trying to cool the pipe painting will not work....but it will cool down the cockpit. The real issue here is couplers melting and burning up. i am leaning more towards the fact if you are burnig a coupler to quick, your on the edge of runnig lean making the heat not with standable to the coupler...so cool her down a bit to save couplers....We run a temp of 130 to 160 and never melt a coupler, but go just as fast...now when we lean her out....165 -70 we start to melt coupler....
Posted on: 8/22/2006 11:08 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
I dont know about paint but a ruff pipe is cooler then chrome for sure...
Posted on: 8/22/2006 9:25 AM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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RE: AquaCraft U-18 Miss Vegas Hydro Thread_Make it Fast!
Well finally got around to getting out the camera...here is our blown Vegas motor...just flat amazing she still runs....[>:] This is what happens when you injest water...did not use the snorkel and the water line broke at the head shoving a nice stream of water down the carb...at 20k rpm's Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Plunk!!!!!!!!! Advice...Replace the stock lines they do crack out, be sure to check them. I am listening to every one burning couplers....to stop this is simple...make sure your pipe is fitted together well with no crack if possible....this is the best tuned spot. We cut a 1/2 off our stock pipe, to get more R's. The stock pipe on the Vegas is a tuned pipe. It actually called a generic tuned pipe...its true name... As far as the copper tubing good idea but not knowing it is efficent or not. The reason being that yes copper is conducting to heat, but it is not doing much unless it is in pure contact with the heat source. look how silicone tubing goes around electric motor..its in contact with the heat source. Which in this case the copper is a rattling tube on the exhaust. We will test more. Now if the copper was in contact with the exhaust...aww we might have a good cooling tube, but this is impossible if you wish to remove it. I was speaking to a pilot the other day and he told me to get the pipe ceramic coated...plane pilots do it to thier engines to reduce heat in engine compartment. So we are getting a pipe done by him...lets see how it goes...I do know that if you ruff the pipe and make scratches it well stay cooler all by its self.
Posted on: 8/21/2006 11:40 PM by Author "TwistedLiquid" in the forum "Speed - RC Nitro Boats"
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