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RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
Please check the following url regarding the lastest development of the "Aldous Design F-14". http://www.rcfreedom.com/index.php?topic=54.msg306#msg306 Thanks, Aldous.
Posted on: 2/6/2007 4:52 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
Hi Stomper1983, The wait is over. The 'Aldous Design F-14' will be ready by the end of this month and you can order right now. Please Email me. My ID is aldous@xmlhk.com You should contact Russ instead if you want the "Oakdale F-14". But please be reminded that now "Aldous Design F-14" and "Oakdale F-14" are different products. Do you live in Japan? I'm flying to Tokyo in March/April. May be we can meet with each other. Hi Starwoes and all, When you are so keen and spend years to design and improve one thing, you can pour out tons of facts and design philosophy. In fact I had really bad hard time to decide whether or not to post my reply. I don't have the authority to create new thread. PM the RCU-webmaster for help but no response yet. Please Email or PM me for the latest Aldous Design F-14 development. Thanks, Aldous.
Posted on: 2/1/2007 5:22 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5354565
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
Jetace11, That was what I intended to do. Why don't we produce 2 different products and let customers have a choice? But something really goes wrong and I must speak up. Aldous.
Posted on: 1/31/2007 3:55 PM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5351707
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
- Oakdale's website has been showing the picts of the F-14 prototype that I designed and built since it's day one (The picts were taken in August 25, 2003). As such, people visiting Oakale website's F-14 page in the past 2 years+ are Aldous F-14 prototype, and expects that the Oakdale kit will look like it. I checked the website page yesterday morning after Russ submited post #52. My pictures are still there so I requested Russ to replace it to avoid further confusion (post #53). So the website shows the images of 'the actual fully molded Oakdale kit' only started yesterday after I asked him to do so. To show that what you've seen in the past in the Oakdale website is the F-14 that I built (I attach the picts here to recall your memory), I take some new picts of the original prototype (modified a bit to accept the one piece hatch) with the reference materials and post here. I split opinion with Russ because people saw the prototype picts on the website in the past fews years (and also waited for years) will at the end receive a kit different than they expect. Having working with Russ for years and shared my F-14 and F-35 design, I don't want people complain Oakdale about being cheated. It's not just a passion of hobby, but reputation as well. I did not ask for anything on creating this F-14. But let's be fair and not to abuse. Best Regards, Aldous.
Posted on: 1/31/2007 2:39 PM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5351390
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
I thought Oakdale F-14 and Aldous Design F-14 will co-exist, just like F-15s by various vendors. However, I'm very disappointed by the latest post as 'being said that are in fact not true' and must say something. - Firstly, and most importantly. I'm the original designer and creator of the F-14 CAD files and Oakdale's F-14 is based on my files, from the beginning. In March 2003, Using Avonds F-14 plan as the base for former contour and other reference materials, including Tamiya large scale plastic kit, Grumman F-14 Tomcat by Jon Lake, and 1988 F-14 Tomcat Koku-Fan (See the attached picts), to create the CAD drawings in Autocad. As Russ is interested in and promised to produce a F-14, I shared the former files with him. He used the former files, and did a CAD model using Solidworks, intended for CNC. The model turned up just a F-14 look alike and not up to my standard. F-14, the Tomcat designed in 1960s has essence that must be preserved in the kit to make it a F-14. I know the supplier of Oakdale uses it to manually build the plugs. The production slipped, slipped and slipped. After 3 years, the supplier gradually come up with the tooling. I actually asked Russ to reject the tooling, and will chip-in to produce the kit because the wait is too long, but he refused. Let the facts speak for itself. Where, how and when did Oakdale got the contour to do the CAD model? As the original designer, there are places where I specially modified which are unique. Also, when the Oakdale F-14 is cut into sections, my CAD contour drawings will fit. If Oakdale is using my files to create the CAD model, it's incorrect to claim that 'it has been from the beginning'.
Posted on: 1/31/2007 2:25 PM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
Hey Russ, I order not to further confuse others, please replace the picts of the F-14 that I built with your own picts in http://www.oakdaleaircraft.com/f14.htm. Thanks, Aldous.
Posted on: 1/30/2007 12:51 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5344277
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
Hi Russ and all, Right. Recently I have a split opinion with Russ of Oakdale. Even after a few years of waiting, I still don't want to compromise. F-14 is unique, and well deserves our hard work to make the kit the best of the best. I want a F-14, not something just looks like. All the details that I described here may not be available on the Oakdale kit. Hope the picts that Russ and I posted so far are self-explanatory enough to show the difference. Apparently Russ has made a decision to produce his kit, not using my design and the tooling. The F-14 that I design and build will be called "Aldous Design F-14" to avoid confusion. I will not post anything further to this Oakdale thread. Will create my own thread so please PM or EMail me for the time being. Sorry for the inconvenience caused. Cheers, Aldous.
Posted on: 1/30/2007 12:42 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5344250
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
Test fit 6061 machine aluminium wing pivot and build-up wings into laser cut formers. All aligned very well and the one piece hatch (black in color) provides convenient access. I'll pull the rest molds (under side nose and intake) this week end.
Posted on: 1/29/2007 2:20 PM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5341082
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
The scale is 1/13.5, around 4'6". Cheers, Aldous.
Posted on: 1/17/2007 3:32 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5278018
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
An underside part is pulled, test fit with engine mount and taileron servo formers.
Posted on: 1/16/2007 10:28 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5273495
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
Hi Sonnich, Thanks to CAD/CAM. Unfortunately laying fibre glass is still a tedious manual process. You will receive your kits soon. Both are for 90mm EDF, not toki .18 that I originally designed the model for. FYI, I'll visit a factory this weekend for making clear canopy, and hope they also can mass produce the kit. By all means I don't want to set up my own factory for hobby. Cheers, Aldous.
Posted on: 1/11/2007 6:44 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5246871
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
All the plugs are ready. The hatch is one piece providing access for wing sweep, engines and taileron servos. I've prepared the underside mold for a layer of gelkote. The first part will be pulled by the end of week.
Posted on: 1/10/2007 3:37 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5241170
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
The underside mold is done. The panel lines will make all the parts pulled looking nice.
Posted on: 12/20/2006 2:05 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5138315
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
Wing was drawn. I'm planning nice looking molded wings with panel/spoiler lines. I have touched based with a manufacturer, targetting to produce the all composit ARF kit at around $350-400.
Posted on: 12/10/2006 5:47 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5096976
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
I carved the 'basic lines' in the upper nose plug where I think should come with the kit. For those DIY fans, there is still lot of room do make it better (best of the best). Spray 1 more layer of primer, sand it with 400 grit water sand paper and ready to pull the molds.
Posted on: 12/10/2006 5:18 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5096956
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
Hi Sonnich, The more I put into the plugs, the better the kit will be. Hope it saves the kit builders' time. Hi Rapptor, Can you estimate how long it takes to scan the large scale Tamiya F-14? I think it's around 26". Thanks, Aldous.
Posted on: 12/6/2006 11:43 PM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5085314
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
I'm putting panel lines, position lights etc onto the plugs. Quite a lot of work.
Posted on: 12/6/2006 5:50 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5081592
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
This is the underside of the fuelage body. Since it it too big, there are altogether 6 parts. The front and the back, 2 engine back housings and 2 intakes. The 2 intakes will be on separate molds because they create undercut. The parts fit well and I sprayed a layer of primer on the plugs. I have yet to receive the upperside of the fuelage. It's the most difficult part to cut and will take another 1-2 weeks.
Posted on: 11/25/2006 2:38 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5036228
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
My Kindergarten Solidworks skillset worked out. The nose is cut in upperside and underside halves which allow cutting of missile wells. The parting board is cut with the upperside. The smallest knife is 5mm and it cannot cut the rounded bottom of the well, I need to sand it to shape.
Posted on: 11/25/2006 2:28 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5036213
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
CAD/CAM technology helps a lot. I got the plugs of the nose portion. The surface is machined to the finest with parting plane, together with the underside sparrow missile wells! They're directly cut from PU (prototype resin) and no sanding is required. Spreading a layer of primer (and carving panel lines) will make them ready for waxing and pull the molds. I'm going for 1 week business travel. Hope to receive more plugs when back.
Posted on: 11/11/2006 1:15 PM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4982890
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
Learning Solidworks hard, and progress well. This is the most difficult part to draw! But once it is done, it's the CNC to do the hard work.
Posted on: 11/9/2006 12:03 PM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4974774
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
It should be easier to do it in pieces. This is the nose portion in computer drawing.
Posted on: 11/1/2006 3:42 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4941017
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
Computer drawing turns into practical. The top of the plug machined out in one piece. It's very difficult to manage.
Posted on: 11/1/2006 3:34 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4941012
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
Hi Tomcat_104, Though I have to commit a minimum of 10 units, it's built to order. Based on the first set I received, I can request minor modifications to subsequence sets. EasyTiger is the one does not want to wait. I know he can make modifications himself. It takes 2-3 weeks to build once your confirm your order. Cheers, Aldous.
Posted on: 10/19/2006 11:53 PM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4890807
RE: Ive Joined the F14 Tomcat Society
The latest project. A 4'10" version for 90-98mm EDF/Glow Plug engine.
Posted on: 10/19/2006 2:17 PM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4888541
RE: Ive Joined the F14 Tomcat Society
Just found the thread. I finished my 1/8 recently. It's a few inches bigger than the Yellow Aircraft 1/9. Stan, keep going...You won't regret building one.
Posted on: 10/19/2006 2:01 PM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4888478
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
Putting all the stuff together. It's quite a big cat. The x-fligt is nearly half of it's size. I start to paint a layer of black epoxy.
Posted on: 10/19/2006 1:22 PM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4888335
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
I also consider the factors when buying the OS engine. The .18 CV series is a bigger brother of the .15 used in Kyosho D/F. So a better chance of success. The rotor of the .15 will be another challenge. I'm afraid that it will 'throw blades' with a .18. The six blades rotors is stronger and the pitch is close to the toki one. You are right, it's experimental, hopefully to find an alternative of toki .18. If I don't make it, the Schuebie DS-51s will be used. A friend of mine gave me 4 sets of six blades rotor. It's time to try it out. Toki .18 or .20 is what I need if there are still supply. I know it comes with Ducty, but no longer available separately in Hong Kong. I know the owner of X-flight and as a die hard fans of F-14, I bought one. Hmm...no point to compare. You'll know what I mean when you receive my F-14.
Posted on: 10/19/2006 11:28 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4887971
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
For the D/F, I bought an OS .18CV racing engine. In the first pict, on the left is Kyosho/OS.15CV (PowerPlant of Kyosho F-86 and F-16). On the right is toki .18. The one at the bottom is the OS.18 racing. The size is the same as OS.15 and Toki .18 but with bigger header. The second pict show the rotors. Kyosho and toki have 5 blades. I have carbon fibre mixed six blades rotor fits perfectly into the Kyosho fan shroud. Will test it with the OS.18CV engine.
Posted on: 10/19/2006 3:41 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4887068
RE: Oakdale F-14 Tomcat...
So Suppose we can buy toki .20. Where did you get yours? How does it compare with the .18? Painting in camo is a good idea. I thought of it, but decided to go with black (a variant of black bunny). Black + Red is cool. I spent an hour making the fin base last night. Here are the before and after picts. Will request the factory to do the same for your kit.
Posted on: 10/19/2006 3:28 AM by Author "aldousyuen"
in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4887053
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