RE: AW 50cc Yak 55M
Hello guys, I have the red leading edge Yak 55 M and have been flying for the past month. Its a great plane and flies very precise. Here is a link to the build thread in you are interested. http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78456&page=8 It was flying giants website if that helps it appears they do not like posting links F L Y I N G G I A N T S Brian
Posted on: 5/21/2013 1:15 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Aero-Works Support"
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RE: 30cc Edge 540 build
Sir, 1. I would tell you that the very first thing I would do is to check your CG again. I have flown over 400 flights with mine and suggested CG from AW is pretty close to spot on. I would check it again and make sure its correct. 2. Next I would use something like carbon fiber rod to check that all the surfaces move evenly to one another. A piece of balsa is not ridgid enough to be sure. [b]Measure the turnbuckles from ball link to ball link to determine if they are equal. Do this on both elevator and alieron.[/b] 3. Next, I would also take each surface off and check to make sure all the surfaces are not twisted and level. You can also check this with a incidence meter. If that checks out, I would insert the carbon elevator tubes and attach a incidence meter between the rod and compare it to the incidence of the wing. I doubt there would be a problem here as the planes are built on a jig. 4. I would guess you will find a problem in the first two steps before getting to step three or four. Brian
Posted on: 7/4/2012 9:51 AM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Aero-Works Support"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
Sir, I would guess say, I bet you allowed the muffler to come loose and you flew it for a while. The cracks develop from the vibration coming from the motor or a prop that is out of balance. I agree drilling a hole to stop the cracking, but if it was me, I would find a good tig welder and have it corrected. I am sure someone in your area has a tig welder. It will be worth it otherwise it is going to get worse with JB weld. Now this is just my opinion...remember a picture is worth a thousand words. Brian By the way I have never had a JTEC muffler fail in a weld or crack....I have had plenty of cheap chinese ones do this... I dont buy them anymore.
Posted on: 6/6/2012 6:13 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
Hey Goose, Have not heard from you in a bit...how is the plane. Brian
Posted on: 6/5/2012 7:20 AM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
I flew the crap out of my Edge today. I am going to move my batteries back to the front edge of the wing tube. It flew pretty nose heavy and the nose dropped on an inverted 45 upline. I will try it again next week. That DL50 must be very light if you had to add weight on the engine box. Maybe the carbon fiber stab tubes would help a bit. Brian
Posted on: 4/29/2012 7:28 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
My suggestion is to not use an IBEC. Anytime you attach anything to your ignition and then to the reciever....bad things can happen. I have heard of far to many planes having engine and brown out problems with IBEC's. There is many other safer alternatives to save weight than one battery for both ignition and reciever. Just my opinion...putting it back together is prob not the best idea....you have to ask yourself is a 30 dollar part worth the value of your 1500 dollar plane. Brian
Posted on: 4/25/2012 3:41 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
It will fly fine
Posted on: 4/25/2012 11:58 AM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
Goose, I thought I should tell you. I rebalanced my Edge last night and realized it was very nose heavy. Not sure how I missed this the first time. I ended up placing my batteries just in front of the fuel tank on the floor. It balanced just a tiny bit nose heavy now. The old position of the batteries was almost touching the firewall. I think your DL50 is a tad heavier than the DLE55. I forgot if you used a can or not. That may make a bit of difference. Brian
Posted on: 4/23/2012 12:04 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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RE: Edge 540 50cc covering problem help
That does not look like a AW paint scheme.
Posted on: 4/22/2012 3:26 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Aero-Works Support"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
The prop for the DLE is kinda tough without a weight on your plane. I have a 9 lb RV4 that flies very nicely with a 16X8. My friend has the AW Extra 60/90 that weighs seven pounds works awesome on a 17X6. I have used a 22/10 Menz before and it rips on the downlegs. I really like the breaking speed of the 23x8. It is really personal preference.
Posted on: 4/21/2012 8:57 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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RE: 30cc Edge 540 build
You need to supply them yourself.
Posted on: 4/17/2012 1:24 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Aero-Works Support"
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RE: 30cc Edge 540 build
I believe I have over 300 flight on my plane. I broke the motor on a 19X7 Xoar beach prop. After about a gallon, I changed to a Xoar 19X8 laminated prop. The plane has great verticle as well as breaks well on the down line. The reciever is powered by a life 2100 mah battery and the ignition is powered by a 1600 life with no regulator. I believe I was getting six plus flights on a single charge with quite a bit left as a safety margin. One thing to consider is the type of servos you are going to use. If you use digitals, they use a bit more juice than non-digitals. It would be a crime to not put high end digitals in this plane. Brian
Posted on: 4/10/2012 1:48 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Aero-Works Support"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
Dave, I had the same problem, so I bought a used topper for my truck. It was cheap. Just a question on using a break in prop...That really only appies to glow motors. You should put the prop on the plane that you are going to fly and tune the motor for that prop. Just don't hover the plane and keep air going over the engine constantly and monitor the heat. You will notice that different props need slighty different tunes. I cant see what prop you have on it, but if you are using a 23X8 it is not even loading the motor at all. I have run a 23X8 on my DLE55 from day 1. Ask around and you will see that its a myth about break in props. Brian
Posted on: 4/1/2012 8:03 AM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
That motor likes a 24 X 8. Anything smaller will cause it to rip. That may be the noise you are hearing Brian
Posted on: 3/31/2012 8:02 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
Goose, Have you flown your Edge yet....we are all dying in anticipation. Brian
Posted on: 3/28/2012 6:45 AM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
I run 40 to 1 ratio on everything except my DLE20. Per Jody, he suggested running it at 32 to 1 due to the high rpm that the DLE 20 runs. The bearings need much more oil in this little motor. Oil ratio as well as Oil is a topic that has been beat to death on all the threads. I trust Jody as he did most of all the testing on the DLE motors when he worked at Valley View. He knows his stuff. Brian
Posted on: 3/26/2012 6:43 AM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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RE: 30cc Edge 540 build
[quote]ORIGINAL: airborne2.4 Bemeson, you're right about Hitec 645MGs being slow. I love these: http://www.hitecrcd.com/products/digital/digital-sport/hs-5645mg.html [/quote] Those use to be premium servos in the day, but they have had problems with centering after extended use. For the price or a little bit more you can get far better servos these days. I did use those at one time, but now
Posted on: 3/24/2012 4:13 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Aero-Works Support"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
[quote]ORIGINAL: v6goose Hey Brian... I haven't tried it yet but all reports indicate it is very good. Sounds like you have used it... cool. Ha! Fair comment. I haven't done anything since last weekends run-up, busy times. I do have to replace the Schottky diodes I put in the electrical system as they were under rated and one blew. They are 370mA and apparently the Futaba Rx' pulls around 750mA. I will replace them with 1A diodes when I can find some. Other than that, because I put that little valve back next to the pilot, the fuel lines are long and you can't prime the engine in the normal way. I resolved that by putting a one-way check valve 2.5'' from the firewall and problem solved. Small things include wire ties for the fuel line fittings and I'm trying a new synthetic oil this year (Stihl Ultra HP). I have to modify the trailer I bought to transport the orange beast to the field and now that the weather here is much better, I will get into that shortly. Cheers Goose [/quote] Goose, I have been using Stihl Ultra HP for the past four years. It works great. I run it from the first tank to the last tank. Using synthetic is fine to use in break in. That is a wife's tale. Depending on the motor, it can take a little longer to break in. I have taken one of my DLE 55 competely apart after 15 gallons of gas and you can eat off the top of the piston. It has detergents that help in the carbon build up on the piston. You will love the stuff. I run it at 40 to 1 from Day 1. I make sure I monitor my engines temp during break in. I fly circles mostly for the first three tanks making sure the engine is getting good airflow. I like it cause every farm and implement store carries Stihl oil. Brian
Posted on: 3/23/2012 7:34 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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RE: 30cc Edge 540 build
Those servos are as slow as malassis. The centering is okay, but not accurate. On a plane like this, do not skimp, use good quality fast digital servos or you will be very dissappointed. This plane is not a sunday cruiser like your revolver. Its a high performance plane that requires high perfomance gear. The flying surfaces are twice what your Revolver has and put a great deal of stress on the servos. Read AW instructions in the beginning. It talks specifically about what servos to use. Brian
Posted on: 3/22/2012 2:56 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Aero-Works Support"
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RE: 30cc Edge 540 build
You picked an excellent plane...you will not be dissappointed...make sure before you begin building it do the following: Read the entire thread for all the information Read the AW manual in its entirety to include addendum It will go together very quickly without a hitch....if you are looking for some excellent servos for the plane give me a ring or PM me and I will help you out. I used SAVOX 1258 TG's on all the surfaces...They are more than you need, but they can be upgraded to a 50cc in the future if you wanted to. Brian
Posted on: 3/22/2012 12:23 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Aero-Works Support"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
Goose, Have you tried the new graphic material from B and E. It is called air release vinyl. The graphic go on much easier and you get no air bubbles. It makes putting on the most complicated graphics a snap. It cost a little more, but it is more than worth it. By the way, I am missing my daily dose of the Goose Chronicles. Brian
Posted on: 3/22/2012 9:23 AM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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RE: 30cc Edge 540 build
Mach, I am just trying to help you out. I may be wrong here, but it appears your experience in larger gas planes (esp Aerobatic planes) is in the beginning phase. I was lucky enough to have very good experienced pilots help me set up my first few gas planes. One thing they continued to tell me over and over is keep the planes light and simple. Extra junk is just room for failure points. Mark from AW has helped me a great deal. He knows what he is doing and is and exceptional pilot. If you got to AW site and check the video on the 30 cc Edge, you will see my plane. If you think I am blowing smoke, watch the end of the video and you will see Code 3 Innovations on the side of the plane where Aeroworks decals should have been. I have included a link to the video. Give it a look and you will see how slow the plane can land with no wind. If you load up the plane it will not fly this way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7w4NBj3WA_0 Take a look Brian
Posted on: 3/21/2012 7:44 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Aero-Works Support"
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RE: 30cc Edge 540 build
If you load it up with a ton of weight it will not slow fly either. That was my point. This plane excels due to it being light weight. If you make it a brick it will fly like a brick. Its about basic flight principles. Low wing loading equals great slow flight. High wing loading like your revolver makes for speedy landings or it will fall out of the air. Make it easier on yourself and keep it light. The pro guys want there planes light for the same reasons. Just sayin Brian
Posted on: 3/21/2012 12:11 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Aero-Works Support"
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RE: 30cc Edge 540 build
Mach, I use a 2100 life on the receiver, 1700 Life with inline diode on ignition, two switches, digital servos, DLE 30 on a pitts, no pilot, no dash, carbon spinner, and stock tank. Just the essentials....nothing extra. That is how it weights 10.75 pounds dry. If you add all that stuff on your plane to include smoke tank, smoke unit, large battery, your plane will be closer to 12 pounds with tank loaded with smoke oil. This plane will not be the light weight nimble plane anymore, but a dog lumbering in the air. The plane flies best keeping it light with no extra useless equipment. I guess if you are just flying circles than it would be okay, but this is not the plane for flying circles even though it could. This plane is completely different than your revolver. The revolver is a pocket knife and the Edge is a straight razor. I think I would rethink your position on this unless you want just a larger sport plane. IMHO Brian
Posted on: 3/21/2012 10:58 AM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Aero-Works Support"
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RE: 30cc Edge 540 build
I have not tried this combo, but if your numbers are correct it will fly great. I live and fly in the Denver Metro area and my plane came out at 10.75 pounds and the DLE 30 spins a 19X8 Xoar at around 6600 rpm. The plane flies like a giant foamy. How heavy is the moki compared to the DLE. Brian
Posted on: 3/21/2012 9:44 AM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Aero-Works Support"
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RE: 30cc Edge 540 build
[quote]ORIGINAL: mach2 Does the plane come with the decals pictured in the gallery or not?  The manual says that you can buy them from AW, but then I looked at their decal page, and there isnt any for this plane. So im assuming that It comes with the stickers. Thanks [/quote] The graphics that come with the plane are the ones that show on the AW's site. Several of us have changed the graphics. I did not need 1/4 spacers on my plane due to the fact I only wanted to a little less than 1/8 between spinner and motor. I think I used a single 1/8 washer. No need to use longer bolts than what came with the motor. This may seem kinda strange...do yourself a favor and read the build thread from the beginning and all these question will be answered. Another great function is the search? If this plane is the one you want the build thread will greatly assist you in putting the plane together. Reading the thread will take you far less time than asking questions that have been previously answered. Just a thought Brian
Posted on: 3/20/2012 3:51 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Aero-Works Support"
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RE: 30cc Edge 540 build
The MX2 is a far inferior plane in either the Redwing version or Slip Stream. The MX2 may last a season, the AW plane with last several. The quality on AW is fantastic. I have over 300 flights on mine and its been rock solid. I think its the best plane I own. I liked it so much I bought the 50cc Version of it. I hated the Orange when I saw it, but now I have three orange planes, SBACH 50cc, EDGE 30cc and Edge 50cc. The AW plane is an assembly and definately not a build. Everything is included with the exception of the spinner. IMHO the AW plane is a far superior product than the MX2. Brian
Posted on: 3/20/2012 2:46 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Aero-Works Support"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
23X8 laminated Xoar is a perfect IMAC prop. This is the prop I use Brian
Posted on: 3/19/2012 9:00 AM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
I am sorry about the late post. I was gone this weekend. Goose was correct. There is slight coupling on the Edge as with most others. My radio is an Aurora 9. It allows me to add an Knife edge mix if I wanted to use it. I really did not needed it due to its slight and I just make adjustments on the sticks. Remember, CG can make a big difference. Just because your CG is neutral does not mean it will fly without coupling. Sometimes, an aft CG will help, but you better be ready when you fly the plane. I like a neutral plane is just my preference. Some others like a much more aft CG. Its a personal preference thing. Brian
Posted on: 3/18/2012 6:14 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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RE: Goose's 50cc Aeroworks Edge 540 (orange) assembly thread...
Dave, Yes the throttle cure will take care of most of the problem, but proper throttle geometry is still the best technique. Its like using sub trim on a servo arm instead of just placing the servo arm on the servo correctly to start with. Both will work, but mechanical setup is first, then go to the radio. Just saying Brian
Posted on: 3/16/2012 8:29 PM by Author "bemeson" in the forum "Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic"
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