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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
Hey Guys, and anyone new to this thread, I had months of pain with these type of heli's. I got sick of buying spares everytime the bloody things went wrong. I went out and bought a T-Rex with brushless setup, bought a semi decent 6 channel (JR 2610) radio set from ebay and some decent servos, whole thing cost me about £300 ($500) and all of a sudden this hobby came alive for me, Crashing wasn't the only option!! Anyone reading this monster forum here who is THINKING about a walkera heli in any flavour DON'T, spend a little extra and get a T-Rex or a X-400, trust me you will be saving £££ plus hours and hours of rebuild!
Posted on: 12/30/2005 3:40 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=3708270
RE: Walkera Dragonfly 35
The book, they should be @ 90
Posted on: 12/27/2005 2:15 PM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera Dragonfly 35
The pots change the rate at which the pitch is increased against the throttle (pitch curve) one is a minor change and the other is a major change. What you want is the highest possible rotor speed before you lift off, this will give you must must better stability, so with this in mind start witrh them turned anti clockwise (off) and increase them until you can hover, (dont try this with the heli in the air, just keep powering up, seeing if you have lift and landing and turning it up again) The differnt flight modes are normal and idle up, in idle up mode the throttle is full all the time and pitch is at zero when the throttle is in the middle postition, up and down give you positive and negative pitch. if you didn't know this DONT USE THIS MODE, you can get along just fine for you first 30 hours of so in the air withour this, believe me this mode is very dangerous if you dont know what you are doing, ALWAYS chack you are in normal flight mode before turning on. If you are running this heli on a normal motor and NiCAD's then forget doing anything other than hovering, and even that will be hard, it will be best to upgrade to a brushless and LiPo as son as you are sure you aren't going to just put the heli in a cupbord forever!! with a brushless setup you can get the head speed much hight, giving you stability and meaning you dont need as much ppitch to lift, taking alot of strain out of the heli. Happy Xmas, Ben
Posted on: 12/25/2005 2:59 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=3689610
RE: Sanwa/Airtronics RD8000 problems !
hmenne, Thank you very very much for your info, the only place on the web I could find it!! thought I was in trouble as I got the tx for a present with no reciept and thought I was going to have to learn to fly all over again!!!
Posted on: 12/17/2005 1:47 PM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "RC Radios, Transmitters, Receivers, Servos, gyros"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=3663885
RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
I Agree, you can get an empty #35 for £45, get one of those, if you want a cheap heli, you can then get decent electrics for £100 and a decent TX that will last you for years and service all your models for a couple of hundered quid. Or maybe if you are really considering getting a heli and are reading this to see if you want a #35 (which I am sure you aren't any more!! [8|] ) Get yourself a T-Rex V2, the quality of those things compared to these is a differnt league.
Posted on: 5/20/2005 8:29 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=2993103
RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
The foam blades are definatly rubbish, I agree!! I use T-Rex wooden blades on mine, a much larger blade, more momentum. I have a set of carbon blades to, they are ok.
Posted on: 5/3/2005 12:10 PM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
[quote]ORIGINAL: TDubya I've been workin to get my #35 in the air for a month now. 3 sets of blades, and I still can't get the tail to stop spinning uncontrollably. I have my TX dip switch set to "HELI," I've moved my servo nuetral position 30 degrees or more to the rear, I've switched the tail lock reverse (which made it worse), adjusted sensetivity and extent in numerous positions(2/3 extent 1/2 sensetivity at the present). Nothing seems to prevent the tail from moving counter clockwise. I've checked the operation of the gyro with the motor unplugged, moving the tail back and forth. The gyro makes the correct inputs to counter my movements, but it isn't quite enough to prevent the heli from turning counterclockwise. The blades CG are the same, and I've balanced and set the tracking perfect. No vibrations from the main rotor, but I do get some vibration from the tail rotor until I get to liftoff speed. The heli hovers pretty good (while it's spinning), but I just can't figure this one out. It seems like the gyro prevents the servo from moving to its full right rudder capability. I unplugged the gyro from the receiver and plugged the servo directly into ch4. It looks like I get an extra 2-4 degrees with it unplugged. Any ideas?? [/quote] TDubya, try moving the shaft that the tail rotor sits on back through the housing a bit, by this i mean, you shoudl try to ahave a couple of mm sticking out the opporsite en of the tail gear housing, if you dont understand what I mean PM me and I will email you a pic.
Posted on: 5/3/2005 7:26 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=2937796
RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
[quote]ORIGINAL: FlybyPDX Anyone have this and the Esky honeybee 2 CP? Which is more stable? Which is more durable? [/quote] I have both (I sell micro helis, so I have most of them!!) and I love the Honeybee 2!! It is pretty stable, but suffers slightly from low head speeds, you have to bring the head speed up and the pitch down to get good response from them. Also they have that terrible carbon undercarriage, same as the hummingbird and a few others, which wont take a hard landing. Also it has the seperate tail motor, making it hard to upgrade the electrics as you need a mixer board & gyro arrangement (though the electrics seem to be ok on mine, but I have sold a couple that come back with problems. I would say the #35 is more stable, and can be flown happily in small to moderate winds, but the honeybee is terrible in winds! Also the #35 can take hard landings in its stride (all apart from those bloody tail gears!!! I upgraded mine to belt and it is much better!!) Not sure which one I am really recommending, but I must admit the honeybee is a great indoor heli, and if you want to mainly fly indoor this is the one!! PS, the #35 will cost you a fortune in upgrades and electrics to get it air worthy, where as the honeybee will fly out of the box with little to no problems.
Posted on: 5/3/2005 7:23 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=2937786
RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
on a standard motor that is about right, they dont have that much lift to be honest, and unless you upgraded to brushless or got a better lipo (and that may not work)
Posted on: 4/29/2005 4:41 PM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=2926933
RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
I would not go for brushless just yet as you may have a problem and the brushless will probably turn it into hot scrap for you!! The standard battery is never going to lift it, so throw that away!! The LiPo should get it in the air, for maybe 5 minutes or so. What pitch curve are you running at? I would suggets you unlock the pitch curve controls (jumper 8 on the TX) and move the left dial down to 3/8ths, try liftting (the head speed should really be up now) if you get lift great, but it not throttle donw, move the left dial on notch clockwise and try again, somewhere in there is a mix that will get the head speed up and the pitch right, just keep playing! If you do decide to go brushless after you have your lift prob sorted, the brushless ESC plugs into channel three of the RX (you will lose idle up mode though cos the Walkera rx does that for some reason!??!?)
Posted on: 4/29/2005 3:12 PM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
remove the plactic paddle, then gently heat the collar with a soldering iron (not to long), then using two pairs of pliers, one hold the collar, the other hold the flybar close to the collar and 'gently' twist them apart, but be carefull not to twist the metal of the fly bar or distort it. Failing that, just use locktite to lock the paddle a 1/4 turn (or whatever) to set it straight.
Posted on: 4/29/2005 7:02 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
On the metal collar that the paddle is attached, there is an allen key grub screw, if you slacken that off you should be able to turn the paddles to horizontal and re-tighten the collar
Posted on: 4/29/2005 1:59 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
Main blades should turn freely one way, and the other should drive the main gear and tail, if yours is binding, try removing the motor and turning again, if it moves freely then slacken the motor off away from the main gear (but to to much, should messh well, but not to tight) if not then check the tail gears arent binding To adjust the flybar there are two grub screws to slacken the bar, use a pair of verniers or such to measure each end and check it is centered, if you mean adjust the fly bar to mean adjust the tracking of the blades then you adjust the links attached to the flybar itself.
Posted on: 4/29/2005 1:49 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
Since Xmas, and it shows!! (though I am a bit better now!!)
Posted on: 4/28/2005 1:26 PM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
MSN for my sins!!
Posted on: 4/28/2005 11:26 AM by Author "bhermer"
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
That was before I fitted the brushless!! Now it is twitchy as hell!!
Posted on: 4/28/2005 11:12 AM by Author "bhermer"
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
Here is a Vid of me a couple of months ago crashing into my leg! (thought I could fly, yeah right!!) [link=http://www.hermer.co.uk/ben_crash.avi]http://www.hermer.co.uk/ben_crash.avi[/link]
Posted on: 4/28/2005 10:46 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
funnily enough, walkera are now selling these with brushless upgrades anyway! PS I have an expensive LiPo and that really makes a diffrence!
Posted on: 4/27/2005 10:18 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
I have mine set to 6 degree pitch @ at about 80% throttle for hover, full throttle gives me 8 degree pitch and a fair amout of lift. This only applies when the bat is new.
Posted on: 4/27/2005 9:58 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
I run a web host business so PM me and I will give you a place you can upload it to for a month or so!
Posted on: 4/27/2005 6:11 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=2918323
RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
The main advantage would be the increase power, thus increased head speed, stability and responsive control. Mine hovers @ 50% throttle and 6 degreee pitch, where as before it was about 85% throttle, with a tiny climb after that. The only problem I have is the idle up mode, the thing will shake itself to pieces if the blades are slightly out of balance!!
Posted on: 4/25/2005 4:48 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
one way it to adjust the servo position so it starts pointing further to the rear of the heli, or adjust the bar that goes through the tail gear, if you push it throug a couple more mm thenit will apply right bias to the tail rotor
Posted on: 4/21/2005 8:44 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=2897964
RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
In a normal heli it would as the 3D mode is controlled by the tx, but on the walkera tx I am not sure, I upgraded my TX to a computer TX and I am using a brushless speed controller and motor.
Posted on: 4/21/2005 4:47 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
You can plug a new speed controller into channel three of your RX, that will work, or you have probably blown the fet in the speed controller (it will prob be the one on the right if you are looking at the reciever upside down) if you want to replace it with a better quality one, then use SPP80N03S2L-05 MOSFET Farnell part number 3576784 , you will have to cut the tab off!!
Posted on: 4/20/2005 4:18 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=2893999
RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
I hope the moral issues are over!! it is getting a bit personal and insulting in this forum for my liking! My hints and tips (people feel free to contradict or add in a nice way please!) 1) check that the tail gears are not meshed to tight, you should be able to 'just' see a gap 2) Check that the main gear itsn't binding against the motor pinion. 3) Check that the fly bar is tight and centered 4) Check all the screws and ensure they aren't going to vibrate loose. 5) Turn on the heli and radio and check that you dont have jittery servos, this will not help you to learn to fly! if you have, try swapping them out with better quality servos (The tail servo may jitter, but before you replace it, check this isnt gyro induced) 6) Following the instruction manual, check the tracking of the blades. 7) Write down on the notes section of the manual the position of the dip switches on the back of tx and the gyro reverser, believe me you will appreciate this later! 8) Loose the tail blades until they hang free, that way if you land in grass, you shouldn't strip gears (I have upgraded to belt drive to get over this!) 9) IMPORTANT - If you have a Li-Ion or Li-Polymer battery (A nicad probably wont even lift it from the ground!) visually inspect the thing, check for damage or swelling, if damagaed DONT USE, also for the first charge just check the battery temperature and the charger temp, mine never go above slightly warm! 10) Enjoy it! Hope this helps, and have I missed anything important people?
Posted on: 4/19/2005 4:33 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
Hi !, Cant really answer that, must say that mine doesn't cut out at all, in fact it will drain the battery below the critical 9V mark if I let it, which would ruin the battery. Mine came with a 1900mAh LiOn which did get very hot on discharge and wouldn't provide much amperage when throttling up! But the charger always worked fine, and I am still using the same charger on my LiPo's now. I can only guess that batteries and chargers are supplied differently depending on where you get it from. All I know is that I bought mine for £120 RTF (which it did out of the box) , I have spent a further £100 and I have a heli which works nearly as well as my friends T-Rex that cost him over £500 to get in the air from a kit. As we all know these things are assembled by guys/girls in China, working for pence (cents) a day in crap conditions and there quality control is poor, the state of your heli probably depends on how the bloke assembling it felt that day!! PS, the telebee gyro that came with mine is pretty crap too!!
Posted on: 4/17/2005 9:44 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
Thanks for those words Gallileo, pretty much how I feel. I have replaced the servos and upgradede it to belt tail and a decent motor and Bat, and I love it!
Posted on: 4/17/2005 5:14 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
Get a T-Rex, or upgrade your 35 to belt drive and a lipo 11.1V 1600mAh 10C
Posted on: 4/14/2005 1:39 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
PS. anybody trying to fly a #35 on anything less than a 1500 6C lithium battery is going to have real problems even taking off, and about 4 minutes flight time when they do! A 10.8V/650mAh Ni-MH Battery is totally crap, I have a higher amp hour battery in the crap solar lights in my garden! Trust me people, you buy one of these (I have one and I quite like it after upgrading it heavily) make sure you at least get a decent LiPo battery and charger (try to avoid cheap chinese chargers, this is you house/garage we are talking about burning after all!!) I would reccomend a 2000mAh 10C 11.1V battery.
Posted on: 4/12/2005 3:20 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=2868235
RE: Walkera DragonFly #35 CCPM Electric RC Helicopter Reviews
J*Dizzle, you have got to be an idiot trying to sell those on this thread, the whole thing is about how crap the blooming things are! And I dont know about the rest of you reading this thread, but it doesn't sit that well with me using this as an avertising medium. I am sure alot of us reading this sell heli stuff either through eBay or online somehow, if we can all refrain from advertising our products, maybe you can to.
Posted on: 4/12/2005 3:14 AM by Author "bhermer"
in the forum "Walkera Helis - Dragonfly, etc.."
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