RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
I don't prime the engine either when using the starter, no chance of hydro locking an inverted engine if there is no fuel in it. I used the chicken stick for a long time to start my Saito, but got tired of damaging $13 props with it. Cory
Posted on: 7/11/2012 6:58 AM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: Metal working...tips
Be careful cutting with the tool rotation. If you have any play or lash in a machine it will suck the cutter in. Cutting with the rotation is usually reserved for cnc machines with ballscrews. Cory
Posted on: 6/7/2012 4:39 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Engine Conversions"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
[quote]ORIGINAL: blw Cory, did you buy the engine locally so you could get your money back? Edit for grammer [/quote] The used engine was long distance via paypal. The new one was local. Cory
Posted on: 4/21/2012 8:30 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
[quote]ORIGINAL: Hobbsy It appears that a foriegn object/substance got under the rod, I see plenty of clearance the way it is sitting in the picture. [/quote] There is less than .004"(bites 2 sheets of paper) when you press the rod down with your finger at BDC. It is possible that something something was in there, idk. The seller is now stating that this is normal wear and the 9/10 engines ran for over a year would have this scraping. I've heard all I can take out of him, he is supposed to refund my money.... I'm holding my breath. Anyway I bought a brand new 100 last weekend. Cory
Posted on: 4/21/2012 6:06 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
Here is a picture of the engine I got recently. The seller is stating that this scraping is from tighten the prop nut down which pulled against the bearings and being pulled by the prop. Also that the crank can heat up and expand causing the scraping. Am I crazy? Or is this not normal? Cory Also that seems to be fuel staining on the crank and bearings, but why not on the rod and crank like I've always seen?
Posted on: 4/21/2012 7:39 AM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: AeroWorks Edge 540T 46-60?
I've got a 42" slick and love it, but the edge has more 'character'. There is a thread somewhere on putting a Saito 82 on a 59" Slick, he boxed in the motor mount and a few other things. But says it holds up fine. Cory
Posted on: 4/17/2012 6:31 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "3D Flying!"
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RE: AeroWorks Edge 540T 46-60?
[quote]ORIGINAL: phatg0nk i agree, i just paid for the extra 260 which really feels and looks alot like the edge accept the forward swept wing. And the COST was 275 or so. I will say the plus to the extra 260 for the extra 80 bucks are bolted cowl- blind nuts pre installed 2 peice wing with bolts plus cotter pins Firewall predrilled with blind nuts installed strings all run for servo extension routing electric conversion kit graphics were transfer tape type, not stickers there may even be a thing or 2 im missing but after buying it im up in the air if its worth the extra 80 bucks..But the plane flew with 0 trim needed out of the box more less most the the pre work done on the Qb's eleminate building error I did have the measure and glue in horizontal stab tho and install stupid controlHORNS! [/quote] How is the weight compared to the edge? Not gluing the wing together is almost worth $80. But then I'm close to the priced of a 59" 3dhs AJ slick Cory
Posted on: 4/16/2012 5:04 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "3D Flying!"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
[quote]ORIGINAL: w8ye [quote]ORIGINAL: clytle374 Is it common for the crank pin to wear? Just thinking aluminum against steel. Cory [/quote] I've never experienced a worn crank pin on a Saito. Not even ones with bad rust. The rod always went in sloppy situations. [/quote] Ever put a micrometer on one to know what it should be? Cory
Posted on: 4/14/2012 6:40 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
Is it common for the crank pin to wear? Just thinking aluminum against steel. Cory
Posted on: 4/14/2012 6:06 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
I gave $165 for it shipped. What do you guys think? Rebuild it, or dispute it. Cory
Posted on: 4/14/2012 6:04 AM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
So I looked through the sellers history on rcgroups and found this. [quote]So I bought a saito 100(used) for my sons 540 extra and was moving it across the table when my arm brushed the wing of the plane. The plane started to roll and I set the motor down to catch the plane and push it back on the bench when I did I pushed the saito off on to the floor . At first inspection I thought everything was fine but upon a closer look the intake tube is bent and has a crack in it. I went to buy one but it seems there is a Right one and a Left one... how do I tell which one I have?[/quote] The motor I bought was listed as being on his sons edge... well now I know its been dropped too. wonderful :(
Posted on: 4/13/2012 8:53 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
[quote]ORIGINAL: w8ye It may need bearings then? [/quote] I feel almost no play in the bearings, but I can see movement in the big end of the rod. To be safe I'd need to replace both. I'm going to try and return the motor first. If not I'll tear it all the way down and see how the rest of it looks. What little of the cylinder I can see looks good. Win some, loose some. Thanks Cory Edit: i should clarify that I work on machinery for a living and can feel a couple thou. Don't have the tools here to get real numbers.
Posted on: 4/13/2012 8:05 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
[quote]ORIGINAL: w8ye Just run it with your fuel and it should clear up [/quote] I pulled the rocker covers and found the exhaust pushrod had jumped out of its screw and was against the rocker arm. The intake had no detectable lash. I then pulled the rear cover and found that the crank and bearings are a bit rusty and the rod has made contact with the case. :( Cory
Posted on: 4/13/2012 7:39 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
I just bought a used 100. It's got good compression and seems in good shape except for being a little dirty and having a lot of carbon on the exhaust valve stem when I look into the exhaust port. Is there anyway to de-carbon the engine without disassembling it? It is supposed to be relatively new and I don't want to reseat the ring. Kind thinking someone ran a high ratio of castrol oil in it. Thanks Cory
Posted on: 4/13/2012 5:08 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: AeroWorks Edge 540T 46-60?
[quote]ORIGINAL: airborne2.4 If you love the idea of experiencing countless dead sticks and wish to spend months fiddling around with the HS and LS needles, then get youself a JBA. It STILL won't sound right after you've changed the carb (a dle 20 or 30 carb) and the muffler. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_9609247/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm [/quote] Oh thanks for the heads up on that. Been thinking about converting the Saito 100 I've got on it now to gas, but didn't want to gain the weight. Now I have someplace I'd like the Saito, but dead sticks are not an option at where I fly. Cory
Posted on: 4/3/2012 5:27 AM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "3D Flying!"
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RE: AeroWorks Edge 540T 46-60?
Was the 15 not enough? Just wondering since the 20 looks a little heavy. Cory [quote]ORIGINAL: airborne2.4 I thoguht about going with the DLE 20 but I made a HUGE mistake and went with the JBA 15....[:o] If I put a nitro in my bird again I'll go with the OS 95 4-stroke[:)] [/quote]
Posted on: 4/2/2012 2:31 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "3D Flying!"
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RE: AeroWorks Edge 540T 46-60?
Not sure what's going on with rcuniverse, but I quit getting email sabout this thread getting replies. Update on changing the servo gears: It was easy and the bearings came right off. The increased speed was worth it too, it hovers very nice now. Cory EDIT: Looking at the OS 95V, I think I'd stay with the Saito being that it is lighter, very well proven, and more powerful than the OS. I also don't like the gear train in the OS 4-strokes. I know it may work fine, but such gears are to be avoided IMO. Now the tappets don't even run in line with the pushrods. I understand that for OS'es other engines it was worth the complex gears and putting endloads on the camshaft to neatly line everything up, but this seems like an ugly design to me.
Posted on: 3/26/2012 1:55 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "3D Flying!"
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RE: AeroWorks Edge 540T 46-60?
[quote]ORIGINAL: phatg0nk I think the last time i posted here was saying i lossed mine over a bluff.. I since purchased an Extreme Flight 50cc yak -dle 55-7955tg's and some A123 batteries..Its already to go now except the installation of the engine. Im very much looking for ward to it, but I am also looking Forward to getting another AW edge'' I really Miss Mine'' Plus need to get my fingers moving a bit again on the plane i loved for a couple years, before diving into my first gasser! This time i think ill go with balljoints all arround a little better servos and a bit more radio mixing that i have become more and more familiar with over this last year.. I think im going to like my replacement Awedge more than my first) Probally gonna go saito .91 -I had magnum .91 first time, and now i have a saito lying arround in a splintered big stick..But i dont think any engine dmg was done. [/quote] Good to see some activity here. I was actually working on mine when it got the notification. I was changing the gears in the Hitec hs-5645 to gears for the hs-5625 to get a bit more speed. The bearings for the servos I ordered weren't needed as the old ones came out easily and are not as high of quality as the Hitec bearings. Plus some computer involved with getting the parts must be hacked since my debit card started developing charges from places I've never been. I'm starting to think I'll put it back the way it was Cory
Posted on: 3/4/2012 5:05 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "3D Flying!"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
[quote]ORIGINAL: Hobbsy Thanks Jim and the same to you and yours, I am currently finishing and old ACE 4-40 and have mounted and old Saito FA .40 with a TutboHeader on it. I'll post a couple of pics. later today. [/quote] Yeah, please post a picture of it. Been thinking since I saw your post about a guy at the field who had one, back in the 80s when I was learning. Miss that guy, taught me a lot. Merry Christmas everybody. Cory
Posted on: 12/25/2011 8:42 AM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
[quote]ORIGINAL: Old Fart I read a lot of saito engine reviews and don't recall anyone saying the cylinder was different in any way,apart from the sparkplug hole.I think you would have to pay more attention to cowling cooling though.Don't know what they are like to tune as i don't have any gas saitos.The fg36 has noticably less power than my fa220 and it sounds a bit flatter too. [/quote] I think I read the whole thread on the FG-20 here, and I don't recall anything either. I thought the hole was the same 1/4-28 as the glow version. Not sure I want to loose the power either. Thanks Cory
Posted on: 12/10/2011 3:59 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
It makes sense that it would run hotter, I was just wondering if it was close to being a problem. I see the crank has a different part number also. Can anyone compare the cylinders and see if the fins are longer? I've never seen mention of Saito changing that on the FG line. Cory
Posted on: 12/10/2011 2:59 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
Seriously considering converting my 100 to gasoline again. How much hotter are they running on gas? Thanks Cory Just noticed that many parts seem different between the gas and glow models. Cylinder, rod, case all changed part numbers. I did see they put a real valve seat in the FG-17.
Posted on: 12/10/2011 8:56 AM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
In that case you should be able to get enough heat to breakdown removable thread lock, I thought it was the spinner screw that was stuck. Cory
Posted on: 11/28/2011 7:09 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
Can you slip the cowl back and get something on the drive? Maybe plug the exhaust with your finger for extra resistance? Cory
Posted on: 11/28/2011 6:01 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
@RC Specialties the pressure port I put in your 90deg adapter works good, you might want to add that as an option. A lightweight straight stack for it would be great too, still too lazy to machine my own. Cory
Posted on: 10/21/2011 3:14 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: AeroWorks Edge 540T 46-60?
Not sure on that bec, but 4 leds shouldn't discharge your battery enough to matter during a day at the field. Cory
Posted on: 10/20/2011 8:41 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "3D Flying!"
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RE: AeroWorks Edge 540T 46-60?
Maybe I misunderstood the problem. I thought it was and offset and not to large to fit in the hole. 8mm is quite a bit. Cory
Posted on: 10/17/2011 7:33 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "3D Flying!"
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RE: AeroWorks Edge 540T 46-60?
IIRC the instructions show you putting the tank in upside down. Maybe that is your problem. Cory
Posted on: 10/17/2011 4:02 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "3D Flying!"
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
Can I have a number too? Cory
Posted on: 10/14/2011 2:50 PM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "Glow Engines"
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RE: AeroWorks Edge 540T 46-60?
A CG of 3.5" is a good start point. I'm back around 4" now. KE with just a touch towards the gear, inverted/upright is neutral. I sealed the hinge gaps with clear monokote, it helped with wing rock in harriers quite a bit. This is a real big thread. ;) Cory
Posted on: 10/13/2011 6:22 AM by Author "clytle374" in the forum "3D Flying!"
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