RE: Jets Over Kentucky 2013
Five Open Awards Jets Over Kentucky 2013 Vernon Kramer "Award of Excellence"=========Jet Central Engineering Excellence===================Jet Central Best Sport Jets========================Jet Central USA Contest Directors Award==================Giant Model Products Top Gun ==============================Global Jet Club Pilots Choice ===========================Global Jet Club Rookie Of The Year========================Global Jet Club Johnny Hernandez Memorial======Knight Walker Productions Inc. Barry "Doc" Grove Memorial====================Scott Harris Best Sport Performance 1==================King Tech USA Best Sport Performance 2====================Dreamwork Special Recognition=====Achievement===========Dreamworks Best Military Jet 3 =========================Dreamworks Best Military Performance 1 ===================Robart Mfg. Best Military Performance 2 ===================Robart Mfg. Best Craftsmanship========================Fly Eagle Jets Best Military Jet 1 =======================Details For Scale Best Military Jet 2 ==========================Jackie Sacks Best Military Jet 4====================================== Future Young Superstar (15 or younger) ===========Boli Muentes Best Sport - Electric Jet ====================Bob Violett Models Best Civilian Jet ===========================Wren Turbines Most Flights==============================Wren Turbines Special Recognition=====Achievement======-======Wren Turbines Best Link this word and every other one like it in our forum to YOUR Website! Lights Electric ====================================== Best Link this word and every other one like it in our forum to YOUR Website! Lights Turbine ========================ElectroDynamics Farthest Distance Traveled================================= Best Scale - Electric Jet =========================USA RC Jets Special Recognition=====Gong Award==============Jim McEwen Special Recognition=====Achievement========================= Special Recognition=====Achievement========================= Note: 2012 Sponsors (Listed in Blue) will be contacted, and have first choice to retain their sponsorships for 2013 Awards are 75.00 each. Contact Lewis Patton Via this thread or call... 502-429-6365-H 502-592-5267-C
Posted on: 5/21/2013 8:05 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky 2013
Dreamworks Mobile Sponsors Jets Over Kentucky Week Awards We would like to thank the Dreamworks team for sponsoring three awards this year. They have chosen... Best Sport Performance 2, Best Military Jet 3, and Special Recognition=====Achievement Visit their website for more product information... http://www.dreamworks-mobile.com/#!home/mainPage Dreamworks Mobile Video... http://www.youtube.com/embed/CSaQt2aYAHc?feature=player_embedded
Posted on: 5/21/2013 6:50 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky 2013
Thanks to Scott Harris for sponsoring the Barry "Doc" Grove Award". Doc was a friend to us all, and Jets Over Kentucky is very proud to honor his name. Photos from Jets Over Kentucky 2009 Doc and Scott at the flight line Doc and Jim Allen Doc with his Boomerang Doc and Lewis at the Awards Dinner
Posted on: 5/21/2013 6:30 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky 2013
Jets Over Kentucky Official Sponsors For 2013 Platinum Plus=== Cash and prizes of 6,000 or more in donations. Platinum======= " " " 3,000 to 3,999 " Gold======= " 2,000 to 2,999 " Silver====== " 1,000 to 1,999 " Bronze======== " " " 100 to 999 " 1. Platinum Plus======Jet Central==Excitement At The Auction (you won't be disappointed)!!!!!!! THREE 40X200 "BIG TOPS"==Friday Link this word and every other one like it in our forum to YOUR Website! Night Pilots Dinner http://www.jetcentralusa.com/ 2. Platinum Plus======Fly Eagle Jets== Large BAe Hawk (1:4.5)===Awards Dinner Upgrade http://www.flyeaglejet.com/ 3. Platinum=========Horizon Hobby=========Three Spektrum Radios====Pilot Prizes http://www.horizonhobby.com/ 4. Platinum======Bob Violett Models=======Pilot Prizes http://www.bvmjets.com/ 5. Platinum=========Global Jet Club========Pilot Prizes. http://www.globaljetclub.com 6. Gold============ElectroDynamics=======Vast selection of pilot prizes http://electrodynam.com/rc/ 7. Gold============Century Jet Models=======TBD======Pilot Prizes http://www.centuryjet.com/ 8. Gold============Robart Mfg==Zap Glue / Accessories=Pilot Prizes http://www.robart.com/ 9. Gold=============Jet Cat USA=======Air Conditioned Pilots Tent / Prizes http://www.jetcatusa.com/p60.html 10. Gold=======King Tech Turbines=====Gift Certificates (4X500 each). http://www.kingtechturbines.com/store/ 11.Silver=========USA RC Jets==========Fuelers / Pilot Prizes http://www.usarcjets.com/cgi-bin/shop/Home.h 12. Bronze======Dreamworks Mobile=====Three Awards http://www.dreamworks-mobile.com/#!home/mainPage 13. Bronze==========2 Dog RC=============Pilot Prizes http://www.2dogrc.com/
Posted on: 5/21/2013 5:20 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky 2013
Five Open Awards Jets Over Kentucky 2013 Vernon Kramer "Award of Excellence"=============Jet Central Engineering Excellence======================Jet Central Best Sport Jets========================Jet Central USA Jet Central Surprise ========================Jet Central Contest Directors Award==================Giant Model Products Top Gun ==============================Global Jet Club Pilots Choice ============================Global Jet Club Rookie Of The Year========================Global Jet Club Johnny Hernandez Memorial======Knight Walker Productions Inc. Barry "Doc" Grove Memorial========================== Best Sport Performance 1==================King Tech USA Best Sport Performance 2====================Dreamworks Best Military Performance 1 ===================Robart Mfg. Best Military Performance 2 ===================Robart Mfg. Best Craftsmanship========================Fly Eagle Jets Best Military Jet 1 =======================Details For Scale Best Military Jet 2 ==========================Jackie Sacks Best Military Jet 3 ========================== Dreamworks Best Military Jet 4==================================== Future Young Superstar (15 or younger) ===========Boli Muentes Best Sport - Electric Jet ====================Bob Violett Models Best Civilian Jet ===========================Wren Turbines Most Flights==============================Wren Turbines Special Recognition=====Achievement======-=====Wren Turbines Best Link this word and every other one like it in our forum to YOUR Website! Lights Electric ================================= Best Link this word and every other one like it in our forum to YOUR Website! Lights Turbine ========================ElectroDynamics Farthest Distance Traveled=======================Enthuzes Best Scale - Electric Jet =========================USA RC Jets Special Recognition=====Gong Award==============Jim McEwen Special Recognition=====Achievement============= Dreamworks Special Recognition=====Achievement==================== Special Recognition=====Achievement==================== Note: 2012 Sponsors (Listed in Blue) will be contacted, and have first choice to retain their sponsorships for 2013 Awards are 75.00 each. Contact Lewis Patton Via this thread or call... 502-429-6365-H 502-592-5267-C
Posted on: 5/21/2013 4:13 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky 2013
[quote]ORIGINAL: essyou35 Are there spots I can just setup my own tent for free? [/quote] We have plenty of space (in the grass area) for plenty of personal tents.
Posted on: 5/21/2013 6:52 AM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky 2013
[quote]ORIGINAL: RCISFUN Hey Lewis, Did you ever consider getting a rental shower unit for the people camping on site? I would guess that people who are camping would be willing to pay a nominal fee to have an on site facility. http://www.ameri-can.com/states/kentucky.htm http://www.showertrailer.com/kentucky-shower-trailers.aspx http://www.portakleen.com/product/6-stall-portable-shower-trailer [/quote] Hi Rich, Thanks for your suggestion. I'll check, but the prices are probably close to 1500.00. If they are, it would be too expensive. Lewis
Posted on: 5/20/2013 10:15 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky 2013
[quote]ORIGINAL: smchale Lewis, Can you take a moment to clarify the tent arrangements for me, someone who is coming for the first time? You can PM me if you think I'm the only one who may not be clear on this topic. For example are you saying that if we arrive (planning on being there Monday for the week) without a rental that we need to bring our own pop up canopy to have shelter for the week? If we do rent is there a map where we can select the spot we rent? If not, then if there is already established open tent space is there any risk that it may be beter than the location of the rental space that hasn't been spoken for? Thanks for any clarification, etc. it's a long trip and I'd like to ensure I have shelter that's at a decent location in relation to the flight line. [;)] Thanks! (Again just PM me if you have already made this clear to everyone but me) [8|] [/quote] Hi Sean, The tent situation at Kentucky is as follows...Pilots who have attended the previous year or years, get that same space back if they pre-register. I did this a few years back without the required pre-registration and the event lost about 1000.00, because those pilots didn't attend that year. In other words the space was saved, and no one showed up for that space, resulting in a loss of money. At present only half of the reserved spots from last year have pre-registered or sent in a tent rental form. These spaces will be available after June 1st if I have received no registration for those places. Those places along the taxiway will be available to you. If they register before June 1st, then we have a third Big Top tent that you can have a place in. That tent is in the grass, and parallel to the runway. You can rent one of those 10X40 slots for 200.00. or you can have shared FREE space in that tent if you pre-register before June 1st. I will have two to three pilots in all free spaces, and that depends on the number of planes each pilot brings to the event. If there is space available after June 1st along the taxiway, those spaces are 250.00 to rent. I will try to get a layout of all tents after I get back from First In Flight. I'm loaded up and almost ready to leave, but will get it done when I get back. Just give me a call if you need any more information (502-592-5267). Online Registration... http://www.visitlebanonky.com/shop/jets-over-kentucky-pilot-registration/ Make all checks payable to Jets Over Kentucky Pre-Registration form... http://www.visitlebanonky.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/jets-over-ky-13-misc-app-pilot-preregistration.pdf Tent Rental Form... http://www.visitlebanonky.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/jets-over-ky-13-misc-app-tent-reservation.pdf
Posted on: 5/20/2013 10:10 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky 2013
[quote]ORIGINAL: Joe Westrich Hey Lewis... I want to just double check with you. Mike Molnar and I sent you our checks for the tent rental very early in the off season. I just want to make sure you got us on the books. It should be Joe Westrich on the 2nd row in on the new tent that parallels the runway. Mike has the 3rd row in right next to me. I can't remember what numbers they were. Thanks! [/quote] We have you...You're set, but some will be disappointed if they don't get moving by June 1st. Again, we have plenty of room for pop-up tents. Pilots renting tent space don't have to pre-register, but they must send in a tent form and fees. 11 Days Left Before Deadline Pre-Registration form... http://www.visitlebanonky.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/jets-over-ky-13-misc-app-pilot-preregistration.pdf Tent Rental Form... http://www.visitlebanonky.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/jets-over-ky-13-misc-app-tent-reservation.pdf Lewis
Posted on: 5/20/2013 4:52 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky 2013
New Photos
Posted on: 5/19/2013 1:48 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky 2013
Tent Deadline June 1st...Don't Delay June 1st deadline almost here! Secure your space today. Download the tent form and send it in ASAP. Failure to do this will result in the loss of last years place in the "Big Top" tents. We have plenty of space for pop-up tents, just make sure to bring one if this deadline isn't met. After June 1st, tent space will be issued on a first come, first serve basis. Those not renting space, but have free space in the tent just have to pre-register to reserve your place from last year. Pre-Registration form... http://www.visitlebanonky.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/jets-over-ky-13-misc-app-pilot-preregistration.pdf Tent Rental Form... http://www.visitlebanonky.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/jets-over-ky-13-misc-app-tent-reservation.pdf This is the only way I can guarantee any tents or spaces. Pre-Registration-50.00, On Site-60.00(must register by June 1st to keep your reserved tent space from last year) Regular Pre-registration deadline June 25th. Click on the link to register online, or download the form to mail in.
Posted on: 5/18/2013 7:41 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Question to Jet Event Contest Directors
At Kentucky this year, we had a designated time for the glider to fly. Since we flew about 14 hours each day, time was not an issue. The Electric Apache and other helicopters were flown in another area of the airport. Thanks, Lewis [quote]ORIGINAL: rhklenke [quote]ORIGINAL: FenderBean I dont think it would be a big deal, one of the best/biggest jet events in the US has all this and seems nobody has a problem with it. KY jets had EDF jets, Turbine power glider, turbo prob planes and even a chopper. I think speeds may be a issue but some of the jet trainers out thee are slower than some turbo props and some EDF jets are faster than turbines. There is always room for error when more than one person is flying, unless everyone flies the same pattern, at the same speed and different altitudes things can always happen I guess. No perfect answer with rc. [/quote] Yes, but the turbine-powered glider and chopper generally did not fly at the same time as jets. I don't recall seeing the chopper fly, but with the turbine-powered glider, most guys landed or didn't go up because they wanted to watch Ali fly it. I know if I was flying when either of those two went up at Ky jets, I would have landed and if on the ground I wouldn't go up. There is enough potential for a mid-air with multiple jets flying the same pattern, but throw in something that is going "against the grain" and the potential goes up enough that I would not fly. In addition, if someone was flying a turbine helicopter on the main flight line or a 3D turbo-prop and hovering on the main flight line at a jet event I was at, I'd speak to the CD and request that they get their own time to fly. Hovering and a typical jet flight pattern are incompatible, and letting them go on at the same time is asking for a collision and IMHO irresponsible on the part of the CD. The issue with the electric Tucano is not one of the pattern that it would fly, just one of the "intent" of the event and the fact that someone is going to object based on electric prop plane at a "jet" event... Bob [/quote]
Posted on: 8/15/2012 12:44 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Week 2012 /
What a pleasant surprise! To be remembered by your friends is the greatest gift of all. Thanks to everyone for the messages. I'm 66 and feeling like 30! See everyone very soon. Planning for next year is complete...just waiting for everyone to show up in 2013. Even better next year! Will post my pictures soon. The Mitchell Photography, and Surreal Production DVD's should be available very soon. Lewis
Posted on: 8/14/2012 11:13 AM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Illini Jets 2012
Looking forward to the event. Had a great time last year! Lewis
Posted on: 8/10/2012 8:22 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Part III (Spectacular Mid-Air Crash)
Hi Walter, The new A-7 should be flying in a matter of weeks. The new kit from Fly Eagle has leading edge slats, better reinforcement, and many other improvments. The old A-7 was fantastic, but I'm really looking forward to this one! I hope Scott's new project is coming along as well. Lewis [quote]ORIGINAL: jacksonretlaw-RCU Sorry for both of your losses.This is part of the hobby.We move on to the next project.You two are true gentleman to the hobby.No pointing fingers of who to blame.Shame on anyone who thinks otherwise.As I see on the vidieo,s.this is one great jet rally I would love to attend in the near future.I have lost a jet or two.This just happens.I hope to see your new jets in the air soon gentleman. Best regards, Walter [/quote]
Posted on: 8/3/2012 11:25 AM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Week 2012 /
Jack Diaz wins the 18X After a long week of flying, Jack won one of the four radios we gave away this year. His ticket was the first pulled, and guess what he chose? Jack is a great friend and pilot, and we're happy to send this to him. It arrived today, and I'll get it to him as soon as he PM's me his address. Thanks and appreciation to Horizon Hobby for allowing and assisting the purshase. http://www.horizonhobby.com/ Lewis
Posted on: 8/3/2012 10:10 AM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Part III (Spectacular Mid-Air Crash)
And to think...there were only three of us in the air at the time...Just one of those things (LOL)! Lewis [quote]ORIGINAL: Countryboy [quote]ORIGINAL: TimWatson Here is a novel idea. Only fly one plane in the air at a time [/quote] Novel idea, I seriously doubt it ! I dare say there would have been a lot of pissed off pilots if Lewis only allowed one in the air at a time with this many aircraft in the startup area waiting to fly. [/quote]
Posted on: 8/3/2012 5:16 AM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Part III (Spectacular Mid-Air Crash)
Hey Guys...A midair is just one of those things. It's not anyones fault; it just happened. Everytime we fly, that's the risk we take to do what we really enjoy. After all, they're just airplanes; I still have two great friends! Looking forward to the tribute flight next year. Lewis
Posted on: 8/2/2012 5:49 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Week 2012 /
Jets Over Kentucky Week Award Winner Special Recognition...Rafael Marte...Sponsored By Jets Over Kentucky Raphael made the trip from the Dominican Republic to Attend our event. The circumstances were many for him to make the trip. Once here, his King Cat was well flown, and always present in the air. I hope to visit his beautiful country very soon. Lewis
Posted on: 7/26/2012 7:04 AM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Best In The West
I will attend again this year. Had a great time last year. Lewis
Posted on: 7/25/2012 3:23 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Week 2012 /
Left One Out Last Night...Sorry Dave Note: Post # 1253 has been edited to include this omission. Jets Over Kentucky Week Award Winner Best Military #4.....David Murray....Sponsored By Jets Over Kentucky David's T-33 is a masterpiece! The T-33 flew beautifully, and we're pleased he chose Jets Over Kentucky for the debut.
Posted on: 7/24/2012 7:06 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Week 2012 /
Jets Over Kentucky Week Award Winner Best Military #4.....David Murray....Sponsored By Jets Over Kentucky David's T-33 is a masterpiece! The T-33 flew beautifully, and we're pleased he chose Jets Over Kentucky for the debut. The World's Grandest Jet Event Congratulations To Our Award Winners The task of picking a winner was very difficult! There were some fantastic jets this year, and the choices were almost impossible to make. 156 registered pilots, and a few hundred airplanes made this year one to remember! The dates for 2013 are July 7th-14th. Setup will begin on the 4th...we just might see some of you early. Thanks for a great event! Lewis
Posted on: 7/24/2012 7:05 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Week 2012 /
Great Pictures Jim! I'll post mine when I find some time...catching up on all of my "Honey Do's" (LOL)! Thanks, Lewis
Posted on: 7/24/2012 3:19 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Week 2012 /
Jets Over Kentucky Week Award Winner Johnny Hernandez Memorial...Andy Andrews...Sponsored By...Knight Walker Productions. Johnny is the one person most responsible for Jets Over Kentucky. I was hesitant to do it, and Johnny said "We've got your back...and no politics". Those words will remain with me forever, and will always be what our event stands for. Johnny was a classy guy, and a great friend. Andy Andrews is a great choice by our pilots. Lewis
Posted on: 7/23/2012 8:57 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Week 2012 /
Jets Over Kentucky Week Award Winner Sport Jet....Larry Kramer....Sponsored By Jets Over Kentucky The Twilight flights by Larry were a sight to behold. Smitty took some photos that were awesome! Great job helping Shelby, and flying that fantastic King Cat!
Posted on: 7/23/2012 8:55 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Week 2012 /
Jets Over Kentucky Week Award Winner Rookie Of The Year....Lee Atchinson (15yrs old)....Sponsored By Global Jet Club I had the pleasure of signing his waiver last year. He has been a pleasure to work with. His best attribute...he listens very well. Lee is a fantastic pilot, and is very enthusiastic about jets. Lewis
Posted on: 7/23/2012 8:46 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Week 2012 /
Jets Over Kentucky Week Award Winner Future Young Superstar.....Jake Bottita (15yrs old).......Sponsored by Boli Muentes Jake had outstanding flights all week. Jake quickly adapted his flying style to accomodate certain restrictions, and proceeded to demonstrate superb flying ability. Fantastic job young man! Lewis
Posted on: 7/23/2012 8:46 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Week 2012 /
I was worried that I didn't have time to take pictures...Thanks for the pictures Marvin! I do have about 300 that Riva Wilson gave me to post. I will post them some time in the next few days. [quote]ORIGINAL: Marvinf14 More fun "Paparazzi Pics" :-) and thats all folks hope you all enjoyed about 300+ Paparazzi pics :-) [/quote]
Posted on: 7/23/2012 8:37 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Week 2012 /
Jets Over Kentucky Week Award Winner Best Military Performance #3...B-1 Bob...Sponsored By Jets Over Kentucky Bob's F-14 was one of three Fly Eagle F-14's at the event. Very impressive aircraft, and flew very well! Missed the photo of Bob...I'll find one in the files. I'll have an official photo of Bob when the Mitchell photography disc arrives...
Posted on: 7/23/2012 5:45 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Jets Over Kentucky Week 2012 /
Jets Over Kentucky Week Award Winner Contest Directors Award...Jonathan Smith...Sponsored By Jets Over Kentucky If you don't know Jonathan, you have truly missed knowing a great person! Jonathan hails from England, and has become a regular at Jets Over Kentucky. He and his beautiful wife Johannah are a real team on the flight line. Jonathan is willing to do anything to help others, and we have all benefitted from his presence at Jets Over Kentucky. Lewis
Posted on: 7/23/2012 5:33 PM by Author "jeteye" in the forum "RC Jets"
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