RE: JETPOWER 2012 products WOW !
[quote]ORIGINAL: Ali A step too far in cost maybe? All for a 5 min flight[:@] I for one am going to be really interested to see how aerodynamically efficient these huge airframes are when off the power. I know with my smaller EDF's I spend allot of time off power and utilising the energy in the airframe. Having a bit of stick time on these big jets, I just get the idea they wont behave the same off the power! I am sure I will be proved wrong [/quote] [quote]ORIGINAL: asimace I'm sure it will work and work very well too, the DS-215 is a true masterpiece and I was just staring at it for at least 5 minutes in awe... But I was just considering my experience that does not go beyond 6S1P 5000 mAh in a Habu 32 and was thinking of the 400 Amp OPTO regulator (the cables are thicker than those of my car!) and trying to imagine how big and heavy could the 14S 16000 mAh battery pack be..! And then again (personal opinion) a jet must have that burnt kero aroma around! In any case I love the big edfs I see in the meetings! Mauri [/quote] Ali, Mauri, Thanks for the reply. I get the 2nd one off of the production line. I already have the batteries so it's just a matter of selecting an airframe. I have an 1/5.5th scale F-16 that Eddie Lozano designed but I'm also considering a Tomahawk L-39 or a CARF/Skygate L-39. I guess we will see how it turns out. Kirk
Posted on: 9/18/2012 1:46 PM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: BEST IN THE WEST JET RALLY
Great Ken. I'll see you there. Kirk
Posted on: 9/18/2012 8:49 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: JETPOWER 2012 products WOW !
[quote]ORIGINAL: Ali Check this bad boy out! up to 240 N of thrust on 14-16S 16 amp!!!! Price predicted to be around the 3000 euro mark for fan, motor and controller [&:] I am liking my larger EDF's, but I feel this may just be a step too far! Like all Schubi products, it is a piece of art almost too nice to put in a plane! [/quote] [quote]ORIGINAL: asimace Yeah, me too I think it is maybe too much, but it might be the solution for that harrier in the background! Mauri [/quote] I'm curious as to why you guys think the DS-215 is a "step too far"? With the amount of thrust it puts out, wouldn't it be an alternative source of power for large airframes like the Tomahawk L-39, CARF/Skygate L-39 and the 1/5.5 and 1/4 scale F-16s? Kirk
Posted on: 9/18/2012 8:43 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: BEST IN THE WEST JET RALLY
[quote]ORIGINAL: Airforce7 Kirk, Great pictures. How many flights do you have on your Hunter now? I will keep an eye out for it at BITW next month. GJC is offering some new paint schemes I hope they will show off. [/quote] Thanks. I have 18 flights on the Hunter. I'll be in tent L11, feel free to stop by. After BITW, I'll be repainting mine in the Swiss winter scheme. I've been holding off adding more detail until then. Kirk
Posted on: 9/17/2012 8:52 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: BEST IN THE WEST JET RALLY
Photos of my Hunter taken by Ken Parks last weekend at E-Jets International. Can't wait for BITW. Is it October yet? Kirk
Posted on: 9/16/2012 6:20 PM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Thomahawk or CARF/Skygate L-39??
Based on the responses, it sounds like the Thomahawk L-39 may be the way to go for my application due to its lighter weight. Does anyone have a build thread or build photos of the TH L-39 they'd like to share? Kirk
Posted on: 9/14/2012 8:58 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Futura 1.9m Build
[quote]ORIGINAL: smchale Started adding some color to mine yesterday and today. I'm embarassed to admit to just how much masking there was for such a simple scheme. [8|] Only the red and blue (and black) are painted, the white is rubbed down gel coat. Even the white lettering is just the exposed gel coat. Still need to add a few markings on the fuse and wing top/bottom then I'll be ready for clear. [/quote] Nice scheme Sean. I like the look better than the sport schemes and you made that big honkin canopy area look decent Kirk
Posted on: 9/13/2012 2:44 PM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: BEST IN THE WEST JET RALLY
Hey Joe, FYI, the map on the web site is missing L6, L12, and L18 Kirk
Posted on: 9/13/2012 12:42 PM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Thomahawk or CARF/Skygate L-39??
[quote]ORIGINAL: modelman992005 Hi Kirk if you have facebook befriend Graeme Mears ... he is a world class model builder. Anyways he has built a skygate L39 and it is well documented on his facebook page. Absolutely gorgeous. [/quote] Thanks for the info.
Posted on: 9/12/2012 7:38 PM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Hawker Hunter 1/6th scale ARF from Flying Legends
[quote]ORIGINAL: Eddie P Nice work Kirk!! Jet looks great in the air. How did you pack her up for the transit to and from? Did you drive a trailer or pack and fly? [/quote] Thanks Eddie. I disassembled the Hunter and put it in its original shipping box and shipped it through Forward Air and I flew to Columbus. It arrived in Columbus with no damage and my fingers are crossed for the same when it gets back here at the end of the week. I don't have a trailer so for BITW I will most likely pack it back in the original shipping box and carry it in the back of my SUV along with the Skymaster L-39. Kirk
Posted on: 9/12/2012 9:07 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Thomahawk or CARF/Skygate L-39??
[quote]ORIGINAL: jetpilot I would bet you could get the Tomahawk lighter if it matters. My Skygate/Comp Arf L39 weighs 53lbs if I remember correct. But thats with P200. Scott [/quote] Scott, are you bringing it to BITW. I'd love to get a good look at. Kirk
Posted on: 9/12/2012 9:02 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Thomahawk or CARF/Skygate L-39??
[quote]ORIGINAL: R_Belluomini KIRK [size=7]BIG[/size] $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ oh well it's only money. [/quote] It's only money Bob Actually, the cost isn't that much more than I have invested in the 80 inch BVM F-86 and it is larger with a lot less building and more molded in scale detail.
Posted on: 9/12/2012 9:00 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Thomahawk or CARF/Skygate L-39??
[quote]ORIGINAL: MaHo INTERESTING Kirk! Subscribed! regards Martin [/quote] Thanks Martin.
Posted on: 9/12/2012 8:57 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Thomahawk or CARF/Skygate L-39??
[quote]ORIGINAL: schroedm The C-ARF model is certainly a lot more scale than the THawk L-39. Stefan designed it primarily as a WJM model so went all out on the detail. It's as scale as you can buy. The THawk is bigger and maybe has more 'impact' on the ground due to its size but it is not as scale. There is surface detail but it's not true scale. the ailerons are skin hinged too for convenience rather than scale. Both are great versions of the model but the C-ARF/Skygate version is definitely the one to go for if you want scaleness. I think the prices of both are similar but the CARF/SG version comes from the factory as standard at an advanced build stage for which you have to pay handsomely if you choose the Stage 3 build option from Tomahawk. The TH model is huge so harder to transport unless you have a trailer, although you still may struggle if you want to transport it on its wheels as the fin is not removable. Sat on its wheels the top of fin must be nearly 4ft from the ground. If it were me (and I think it will be soon [8D]) I'd go for the CARF/SG version. Rgds, Mark [/quote] Mark, thanks for the info. I am leaning towards the CARF/SG L-39. I was told one of the CAF reps in Germany is working with CARF to have formers made so the DS-215 drops in without mods. I also like the way the CARF/SG breaks down for transporting. And since I have a scale background, the scale fidelity of the CARF/SG is more appealing. Kirk
Posted on: 9/12/2012 8:56 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Thomahawk or CARF/Skygate L-39??
[quote]ORIGINAL: JackD. Wow kirk... that thing is huge. Is there a point where A123's start to make sense over lipos? I mean, we dont use them in smaller planes due to size and weight, but would you consider them to power something this big? Just curious... PS: are you still building the F86, or did you give up on converting that to e power? [/quote] Hi Jack. Good point on the A123's. I hadn't thought about using them but with a large airframe it may make sense to consider them. I haven't given up on the F-86. Just put it away during the flying season. I plan to get it back out after BITW although I am considering putting it up for sale to help fund this project. Kirk
Posted on: 9/12/2012 8:50 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Thomahawk or CARF/Skygate L-39??
Thanks Dave. How'd you guess I'll be building a big EDF I'll be using the new Schubeler DS-215 with 54 pounds of thrust. In the photo below, the fan that's second from the left is the 29 pound thrust DS-94 that's in my Hunter. The DS-215 makes it look small. Kirk
Posted on: 9/11/2012 5:00 PM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Hawker Hunter 1/6th scale ARF from Flying Legends
Thanks Z, Frank, and Ron. Frank, Daniel and Christian attended E-Jets. They are really fun to hang out with. Wait until you see the new DS-215 at Jet Power. In the photo below the DS-94 is the second fan from the left. The DS-215 makes the DS-94 look like a 90mm fan. I'll be putting a DS-215 in either the Thomahawk or CARF/Skygate L-39. Kirk
Posted on: 9/11/2012 12:54 PM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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Thomahawk or CARF/Skygate L-39??
I have been contemplating the next project and its come down to a Thomahawk or CARF/Skygate L-39. For those that have built one of these orboth of these, what is your impression of the quality of the kit, flight characteristics, and customer service? Which kit has more detail molded in? Which kit weighs less? If you had to do it over again, would you go with the same kit you selected or would you build the other one? Thanks, Kirk
Posted on: 9/11/2012 12:37 PM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Hawker Hunter 1/6th scale ARF from Flying Legends
[quote]ORIGINAL: Tinpusher Hi, made the maiden flight of my EDF powered Hunter today. Maybe the first one in continental Europe? I used almost the same setup as Kirk did (thanks again for paving the way), but with 2s2p 5000 Gensace packs and the MGM Compro ESC. AUW 35 lbs without cockpit and tanks. She went airborne after about 70m on the grass runway at my local field in some gusty conditions. I think I will add a gyro for ailerons as well. Upon landing, the field turned out to be too short by about 10 feet which ended in a damaged nose gear strut. Sorry, no video because I had planned only for some ground runs but I couldn't resist to take her to the skies. After all, my kit had only some minor flaws and I am looking forward to get the nose oleo fixed, install a decent cockpit (hoping Phil has something available at the upcoming Jet Power fair) and get more flights. Frank [/quote] Frank, congrats on the maiden. How do you like the DS-94? I love the way mine flies. I think yours and mine are the only two with e-power so far. Kirk
Posted on: 9/11/2012 6:26 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Hawker Hunter 1/6th scale ARF from Flying Legends
More photos by Bob Jervis and Dan Eaton....
Posted on: 9/11/2012 6:23 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Hawker Hunter 1/6th scale ARF from Flying Legends
Here are some photos of my Hunter at E-Jets International. These photos were taken by Bob Jervis, Dan Eaton, and myself. I'd like to thank smchale for loaning me one of his wheels so I could attend E-Jets International. Sean, it was your wheel that helped my get the award Kirk
Posted on: 9/11/2012 6:20 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Hawker Hunter 1/6th scale ARF from Flying Legends
I flew my Hunter at E-Jets International this weekend and received the "Best of Show" award. I was told the Hunter received the award because it was unique and innovative, sounded more realistic than any other plane there, and was flown and presented in a realistic manner. I'll post some photos later in the week when I get back home. Kirk
Posted on: 9/9/2012 5:03 PM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Hawker Hunter 1/6th scale ARF from Flying Legends
Congrats David. The Hunter is a great flying plane. Kirk
Posted on: 9/9/2012 4:48 PM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: 2012 Jets Over Whidbey - Coupeville, WA - Who's In!
Just got back from Jets Over Whidbey. Thanks to Roberto and Bill for running a nice and laid back event. Thanks to the WIRCS volunteers for aiding in making the event run smoothly. Thanks to the volunteer's families for loaning them to us for the event. Had my video camera but was too busy enjoying everyone's company, flying, and answering many questions about my e-powered Hunter so it never made it out of its case. Thanks too everyone for the nice compliments about the way the Hunter flew and the sound of the Schubeler fan. Looking forward to next year. Kirk
Posted on: 8/26/2012 6:30 PM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: BEST IN THE WEST JET RALLY
Hey Todd, since the wife is one of those good mid-western Michigan girls, I'll let you hang a maze & blue flag in my tent [:D]
Posted on: 8/25/2012 7:51 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Skymaster L-39 Assembly and Scheme Change
[quote]ORIGINAL: RalleKnalle Hi Kirk, had you probems with the dry transfers on that matt/flat surface? did you sand the suface before applying the transfers? sometimes it is tricky to apply the rub ons on very matt surfaces...sanding with scotch brite grey or 2000 grit soft sanding pads do help. looks good, I´d like that black and white stencils... [/quote] Hi Ralle, I used Testor's Model Master flat enamel paint and the dry transfers are sticking to it with no problems. For years I've used the other well know masks and dry transfers, but after using your product on two projects, you have a customer for life. Kirk
Posted on: 8/24/2012 9:15 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Skymaster L-39 Assembly and Scheme Change
[quote]ORIGINAL: gamalierlozada Well I maidened mine and everything went fine. Can't be happier with my selection of edf unit! Sadly on the second flight we lost all power after 3 1/2 minutes because we were flying it all the time at 1/2 - 3/4 of power and we landed in the rough. To our amazement the plane came down level all the time. When I inspected a wing got a little T shape crack and some former damage in the front strut and right wing. As I type the paint is drying and all formers were glued, should be flying this weekend. I will turn off the voltage cut off from the ESC (our suspect of the power loss). Besides that planes flew awesome and with plenty of power and given the proven fact that it wont drop a wing no matter how slow it flies that gives me an extra piece of mind. With throttle management and once the batteries are broken in we should get better flying times. [/quote] Hey Gamalier, Sorry to hear that. The manual for the HST fans recommends turning off the voltage cut off setting. Although these fans are very effecient, they can pull a lot of amps on a fast throttle up due to the rotor loading up. I have throttle delay programmed into the ESC on my Hunter and will do the same on the L-39. The delay allows for a slower spool up, much like a turbine, and helps prevent voltage spike and ripple. Bring your L-39 out to E-Jets. I won't have my L-39 ready in time for E-Jets but I'll have the Hunter out there. Kirk
Posted on: 8/23/2012 9:09 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Skymaster L-39 Assembly and Scheme Change
The left side of the fuse has been weathered and most of the dry transfers that go on the left side have been added to that side. Kirk
Posted on: 8/23/2012 9:07 AM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Skymaster L-39 Assembly and Scheme Change
Thanks Gamalier. Weathering shouild be done before the weekend so I plan to take it to Jets Over Whidbey for static display. I'll try and better photos then. How's your L-39 coming along? Have you flown it yet? If so, how did it go? What's your impression of the DS-77 HST? Any video? Do you plan to make it to E-Jets? Kirk
Posted on: 8/22/2012 2:29 PM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Skymaster L-39 Assembly and Scheme Change
Top of the left wing is nearly complete. Just need to do the small white section at the root. Kirk
Posted on: 8/21/2012 9:37 PM by Author "k_sonn" in the forum "RC Jets"
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