RE: Giga Control
Hi, I can read the data without problem. Just go to weatronic.com and download the gigacontrol and install it again. You will get a newer version, i'm sure that is the problem unless you can confirm that you have gigacontrol version 2.59. I see that you use firmware version 2.50, which is ok. I would however recommend to upgrade to the newest version on the receivers and TX module. I know there has been a lot of changes previously, but no updates last year so it is pretty stable and good now. By the way the, the data seem very good. A strong link, although dropping a few telemetry packets here and there. Change: Ok, then try to uninstall and then install again. Don't know what that could be, but i can read it without problems. Please tell me how that turned out. The other option must be filesystem error, but do you read it directly from the card or copied to the pc first?
Posted on: 5/27/2013 12:22 PM by Author "oistein" in the forum "Weatronic Support Forum"
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RE: Giga Control
Du you have the latest giga control 2.59 installed on your computer? If you can attach a NAV file here, i can look at it for you. You have to change the name of the nav file to something.pdf from something.nav because RCU does not allow .nav files. If that is difficult, send it to me on email: oistein.aanensen(a)@gmail.com
Posted on: 5/27/2013 1:40 AM by Author "oistein" in the forum "Weatronic Support Forum"
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RE: F4F Wildcat 1/4 scale {moki 250}
LOL, this is funny. Affas is a good friend of mine Barry. He lives in the south so we dont often. It was funny to meet you two in here on the same matter. To Affa, i have flown a lot with Barry so i can tell some good stuff about that wildcat. In matter of fact, i NEEED to get back to houston soon. You should join me. Barry will show us a round for a super time. There was a question about a good warbird show to go to abroad (håvard mentioned). I suggest we all go to bomber field together, it is a fantastic place.
Posted on: 9/17/2012 12:57 AM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Warbirds and Warplanes"
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RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
Oli almost everybody have glitching cables. Of course if they test a brand new cable never touched or transported anywhere its not going to glitch. However, when used at the field from daily to weekly its just a matter of time. A friend of mine even had one wire break just at the end of the external connector. Almost all systems will glitch if you simply move the cable from one en to the other. I have a youtube video showing that. Of course it was misunderstood. People saying you should never to that. Of course you dont do that normally it was just to show how weak the system is. In matter of fact i started using weatronic in my club. We later got up to 8 wea users there. Kept on using it eventhough we had to beg to buy receivers sometimes. Out of those 8 there are 1 wea user left. He is they guy that flies maybe 10 times a year. Im flying 300-400 flights a year, 3-4 times in the field a week. Flying around Europe, as well as Asia and US as you know. It is very hard to be that careful as you have to be with the wea module. Also you cant really thrust it as the glitch comes out of the blue. I have not lost a plane for it, but i had glitches in the pits starting a jet. Numerous time i have had glitches when turning on my transmitter. Me and friend got to the state of hot gluing the wea connector to the tx module. I felt kinda ok with it, until i still got a glitch. In fact, i got not get tx back again as it was glued so i could not rock the cable anymore. It came back though after power cycle of the transmitter. It is just to bad. I have 4 people out of 8 previous users in my club only that has personally experienced and seen glitches due to the cable on their transmitter. That is 50%. As i said. We dont fly wea anymore. Some of us still have the rx's, me included. In case they will ever make their product better. The cable is joke, and it is super easy to fix, but they are just so incredibly arrogant so they wont. The new TX might have super sticks, and really be good like they're 2.4Ghz system. IT DOES NOT MATTER. As the system is only as good as the weakest link in the chain. Hello wea you should have waken up years ago, and you are still sleeping.
Posted on: 9/17/2012 12:38 AM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Twin Turbine Jets, loosing 1 turbine
twin turbine modern jets should be ok, if it a me262 or gloster meteor it's a different story. then you might want reduce throttle quickly and just land straight away anywhere you can.
Posted on: 8/20/2012 3:56 PM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
[quote]ORIGINAL: olecr Hi Oli, Roger and Oistein. Thank you, that you will help me in examining the logfile. I think you all are right in your assessment of the logfile. I have checked the crashed RX and the cable and see that there are no problems there now. As you said Roger, servo 2 was very active just before the crash and so was the power 5. These are the ailerons and they had fully
Posted on: 6/13/2012 4:10 PM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11117248

RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
[quote]ORIGINAL: olnico [quote]ORIGINAL: olecr Oli. As I said some days ago i lost my Boomerang. I tought it was the cable probleme but my friend Oistein has looked at the file and he think it maybe can be something else. Do you think you can look at the logfile and see what you think it could be? The RX is (was) Micro 12 with firmware 2.56, TX is Futabe 14MZ Here you find the logfile: [link
Posted on: 6/13/2012 2:10 AM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
Just adding that last known value is recorded to the sd card which s very confusing. This changed around firmware 2.3, before it would show blank if garble is received from the rx. Also with the micro rx it is highly unlikely that you would ever see a fail safe recorded as the downlink is almost always bad if a fail safe should occur. I have tested this forcing fail safes to occur, never ever seen it recorded. For the bigger 12-22 you will have it logged in the card in the receiver. That would be the only way of having a proper black box recording of incidents.
Posted on: 6/11/2012 1:29 AM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
[quote]ORIGINAL: luv2flyrc [quote]ORIGINAL: oistein [quote]ORIGINAL: fireblade5437 I tend to agree with you but I would like to have certain warnings such as Rx battery voltage etc... Alan [/quote] warning for battery, temp, range, speed, altitude is there already. it works perfectly. I don't...? [/quote] Oistein, if you use PPM output instead of PCM, are the servo's still ''notchy'
Posted on: 5/15/2012 5:03 PM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11082191

RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
there is voice output of airspeed at least with gps only. don't have the mux, so with that I do not know. however from last fw you can not switch off the announcement of the position. it is annoying as it is a very long message.
Posted on: 5/15/2012 2:52 PM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
[quote]ORIGINAL: fireblade5437 I tend to agree with you but I would like to have certain warnings such as Rx battery voltage etc... Alan [/quote] warning for battery, temp, range, speed, altitude is there already. it works perfectly. I don't know what say after the disappointment of the stepping servos? Anyone wanna buy my receivers?
Posted on: 5/15/2012 1:17 PM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11081913

RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
interest in this thread and the translation of the wea documents. Regards Oistein
Posted on: 5/15/2012 12:33 PM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Top Gun 2012
Please, someone took pictures of the results? Be very much appreciated !!!
Posted on: 5/6/2012 5:24 PM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
Add a comment. Yes a friend of mine could not use his old files after upgrading 2.59. That is BAD. Another point for on the mentioned upgrade issue previous post. He did just download install as most so the old software where gone. And you cant find the old version on wea homepage. So chose to program in tx instead. But then, a lot of the reason for using wea goes away. Guys, really appreciate this thread. It is very valuable with good contributions. I would be so thankful if any of you would have a chat with wae at prowing and report back here. I'll buy you a beer if meet somewhere sometime :)
Posted on: 5/2/2012 3:30 PM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
Hi all, I have i couple of comments which i hope some of you guys might bring to weatronic in case you are visiting prowing trade show this weekend. 1) First one is on the upgrade firmware part. I have tons of suggestions here, but as a start which seems easy to implement. The fact that all the settings in the receiver is reset when upgrading i think is a hazzle. Specially if we want utilize the weatronic to its capabilities of configuring the receiver. I know you have files on your pc an apply them, but is sometimes not practical at all. I dont understand why they dont use the gigaupdate to first get all the settings, store it, then update, then put the settings back. Make it seemless. Should be very easy. And in the long run, lets us update the receivers from the tx having all the firmware in the sd card of the tx. Then just update the one you have in connection. Should be doable in the future, maybe more memory is need in the rx of course cause you want to transfer the whole image before upgrade. 2) Cable issue again. Please, if anyone of you go. This is so important. Last saturday i went to a jet flyin in sweden. I saw a guy flying weatronic and i told him make sure you check that cable. He said, nah not a problem for me i fly mc-22 and the its very well protected and i never change system. In a strange coincindence on his second flight, no power in wea module. He played with for a long time, then remembered what i said. The red cable was off, 100% off. So he asked me to have a look. And the cable was rotten. I bent it slight back and forth and and another one came off. So i guess maybe with the weather and all that we fly it gets weaker. It was a two year old cable. TX only takin in and out of the hardcase for it. He was shocked. I helped him though to open the wea module, then i soldered in it place inside at the show. But i still think the cable must go. Then we scured it so it cant be pulled in the connection at all. Anyway, it is an alarmin bad design. There is pull protection and it is not proper solution. I mean i would have been quite happy with RJ12 and flat cable we use on the jetcats, but it can be done 10 times better than too. Ok, my stpries for today. Waiting, with a lot of patience for a super system to be usable :)
Posted on: 5/2/2012 3:24 PM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: No Weatronics customer service.
weatronic sucks big big time. sent many emails, tried calling, why even bother having a company? for some reason its not the first german company that has problems with customer support...
Posted on: 4/6/2012 7:26 AM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
thanks, you convinced me. i will give it a shot. if any of you are going to pro wing please talk to them and let us know. I would like to go too, but hopefully I will be flying at top gun instead. if we can get time to finish the airplane. thanks
Posted on: 3/28/2012 8:09 AM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
I wanna update my DV-3 to DV-4 BT. So does anyone at wea answer my emails regarding this? No Do they answer my next email asking to get an answer about where to send, price and time? No Do they pick up the phone? No Do the freakin care? I dont know, but it does not seem like that. For how long can this go on before the whole thing is busted? Dont know, but im sure we are getting close.
Posted on: 3/27/2012 3:28 PM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
Thanks for the screenshot. That was very good news. I can see that he is visual GPS and receiving NMEA strings from the GPS over wea BT unit. The visual GPS is pretty goo program to investigate GPS performance. So harry, if you could have that on logging in your area that would be great. Then we could for real see what is going on :) Thanks again guys. Anyone know if wea accept my DV3 unit for DV4 and BT upgrade?
Posted on: 3/19/2012 4:24 AM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
Hi Guys, First of all Harry i totaly agree with you that its not a map problem. You seem to have very accurate positions until it goes bananas for a few seconds. It is very very hard to understand what is the problem. I have been looking at the spec sheet for ublock LEA5 GPS and beleive me that is a very high spec GPS sensor. Super high sensitivy. When that is said, a gps will never be optimal with a small patch antenna inside and RF environement, but it should not give the results Harry is seeing. I have never seen those results myself. In fact i have pretty good results as expected. The height is off, as expected, but not more that 10 meters so far. It would of course be interesting if the wea was logging the gps qa parameters such as all the dop values, azimuth and elevation, number of sv's etc. Then it would be easier to understand what happens. Also we do not know what kind of elevation mask is programmed in the LEA-5. A too low elevation mask could lead to the problems you see harry if the gps beleives in the slant ranges measured from a satelite that is too low. Normally i would use a pretty high elev mask for flying as i beleive that would give better position. I do not have that much experience with egnos (a global gps correction system for europe) as that is pretty new and i dont know the state of it. I do however know that waas works very well, but that i beleive is only for the states. With 8-10 high sv's with good signal to noise and waas enabled and locked you could get as good as +- 1 at 2 sigma. I strongly belive that your problems occour when the gps' satelite constellation changes. So Harry if you would tale the time to log the GPS while stationary at the same field for a few hour it would be intersting to see your results. As for the BT version and connection. I dont have this model, i want it, but i dont want to spend money on wea until i see a change. I even offered them to program a pc software and android software for them for free, but i did not really get anyone listening to me at jetpower. From what i read it looks like their BT implementation is a data channel only. Meaning the BT would pair and then a com port would be enabled on the PC/smartphone side. Then there must be a piece of software that would actually read of that stream for it to make any sense. So your phone will probably not see it as a gps. The intersting part with regards to gps is that it looks like you can use GC to configure the wea to output GPS data, NMEA and the BT. That would be very good for investigating the GPS problems some people have seen. I would love to see that androis program. Anyone who has it? If so i would very much like a copy. Thanks guys for a lot of great information here. Really hope wea will come back stronger than ever. I agree on the last msg here. Before you mess with new stuff, please fix the important stuff first. First of all let us buy your stuff without begging for it. Then fix the cable issue. Then english voice. I do however strongly belive that you could do all this at once. It should not be hard. Come on, webshop should be straight forward. How hard is english voice when you already have the german. An basic android display app should not take more than a week. Change GC to read from BT cant be that hard either. What are you guys doing !!!!!
Posted on: 3/17/2012 3:17 PM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
Hi, Great to see some Germans coming in here too, thanks a lot guys. Big thanks to Gianluca for his good advises and extensive testing. I also have two gps modules and have been resonably happy with them. The time for acquiring a fix is short and it seems like it a sensitive gps as i receive position even inside. That leads me to think i have sirf star III algorithm in mine. Have not open yet but i will do and report here. I also have a few thoughts about testing gps's as i work with positioning and survey in the oil and gas industry. Generally camparing a GPS to map to understand its presission can be very difficult as we do not know the accuracy of the map in that area. A WGS84 datum map will not be super accurate in all place. Normally when surveying we are applying datum shifts that better describe the shape of the earth in different places. Also the shift calculations are done differently in differnet places with a 7 parameter shift being the general one. As an example we often use a datum called ED50 in the north sea and nad27 in the gulf of mexico. None of the calculated using standard 7-parameter shift. Enough of that, just saying, comparing with google earth is not the best option. I have not put my gps to a real test, but it could be done easily. Simply mount it permanently rock soild and keep on logging. Ideally you should log it for 24 hours and you will have good results that will give you good statistics. Also you want a place with no obstruction and a clear view all the way to a low horizon. Remember we only have a small internal patch antenna which is kind of limited on reception. A decent gps should give approx +-3 at 2 sigma and +-5 sigma at 1 sigma with a 24 hour logging. This mean that 67% of your observed position should be with 3 meters and 95% within 5 meters. This is kind of conservative numbers taking into account athmospheric errors. The height will only be +- 15 meters at 2-sigma/95%. When that is said you can also compare your starting point every time you fly if you park your aircraft in the same spot every time and leave it a bit to get some observations. This result should be better as you dont see that many statelite changes. When it comes to speed measurements they should still be very very precise normally as the gps has very good relative position, but the absolute position is not that good. This meaning that from observation to observation it can easily measure a distance of centimeters eventhough its absolute accuracy is only few meters. Due to satelite constellation change you might have times where your speed is wrong, very wrong but just for short moment. That is why alsmost all comercial gps with mapping like garmins etc is filtered. Its normally an algorithm that knocks out obvious bad observations and after that they apply something called a kalman filter. To me it seems like the wea is only calulating speed based on raw observation or just the speed in the nmea string coming from the gps. Possibly this gps will just give you "raw" observation. (With raw i mean unfiltered positions and not raw slant ranges). An observation knock out and some smoothing would greatly improve the use of this gps. In addition i would assume the gps might be influenced by the speed we have on our jets. I only have experience of surveying objects at 5knots, that is very very slow of course compared to what we used. SO i have no idea on how that affects the gps' performance. Last but not least. What is happening to weatronic? ANyone knows anything? I'm so reluctant to use this equipment if they have no future. Their cable issue should have been solved ages ago as it is very very important. There are tons of good connectors out there that would the task. A better packaging should also be considered. I hope they will do something very very soon. Else i will just go the FASSTest way instead allthough i want weatronic more. Thanks for reading
Posted on: 3/16/2012 6:07 AM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: I have to apologize once again to my customers.
Hi Dan, Just calling in here to see how it goes with the Tucano lights for Bjorn in Norway. You know its more than 4 months since it was payed and i think you mentioned sending it mid february on our last email. Would be super with an update! Thank you
Posted on: 3/14/2012 4:04 AM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Bifurcated pipe thrust loss
In an Avonds F-15 in hot or high altitude conditions i would put a 160 or the the new 140 in it. 160 is the same size and it really starts to look like an F-15 with that engine. P-80 really is not enough.
Posted on: 2/2/2012 11:37 AM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Dream is coming true today...
Hi Evan, which pipe are you using in your T-33? Thanks!
Posted on: 1/18/2012 4:29 AM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Bomberfield future at question for local Houston guys
I would the club even if i rarely get to use it. It is fantastic. Who knows, maybe they will start exploring for more oil in the gulf soon :) So i can enjoy it more :)
Posted on: 1/9/2012 4:29 PM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: First jet for a good pilot?
I can recommend the Avonds F-15 with robart landing gear. The plane is scale, looks superb. Flies great. Handles grass easily. Very robust. Will give you years of great entertainment. You will no have any problems operating that jet. Jetcat p-140rx would be a good companion.
Posted on: 12/11/2011 12:15 PM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: F-15 Rudders
Philip Avonds recommended me to trim both my rudders on the Avonds F-15 a mm or two inwards to reduce the tail-wagging in the air while windy. That actually helped a lot.
Posted on: 11/23/2011 8:25 AM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: futura ferrari f1 scheme
[quote]ORIGINAL: u2fast well here she is in all her glory. i havent maidened the jet yet. i wanted to display her at the houston ferrari festival first. great fundraiser for texas childrens hospital cancer center too. brought my fcar and my fjet. lots of fun. barry [/quote] Now that is a great great jet display Barry, well done. Never really liked the way the futura looked, but with racing scheme i must say it is a LOT better. I have seen a few and they seem to be very very good fliers. Now i'm eager to see you panther pics, will keep on looking... Take care my friend..
Posted on: 11/21/2011 12:53 PM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
Which german forum is it? Do you have a link? Thanks a bunch :)
Posted on: 11/10/2011 7:27 AM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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RE: Weatronic 2.4 RF diagnostic tool
You are so right David, i wonder why they dont listen. How on earth can it be that hard to communicate. If they're system wasn't as good as it is they would be out of business long time ago. I just dont get it. There is so many customers that has stopped buying weatronic now cause the do not want to invest in equipement of an uknown future and they can't buy even if they want to buy it. If you have a new airplane with no receiver then you WILL go for something else. There will be two pretty good competitors out there very soon they better hurri up. If this is not solved when FASSTest is available weatronic is even more serious danger of failing. Weatronic has to: 1) Make their product available 2) Communicate 3) Fix the wire problem from TX module to TX interface, this is VERY URGENT 4) Translate to english all of their stuff 5) Get a better firmware update scheme for backwards compabillity and upgrade without loosing stored data/cfg 6) Solve the new transmitter problem where there is no modules Weatronics largest marked has been and still is europe. In europe the futaba 14mz or fx40 is super popular by weatronic users in addition to the graupner. In 2-3 months FASSTest is here with 18mz, and you they treat customers like that. I can't really see how they can survive.
Posted on: 11/10/2011 12:03 AM by Author "oistein" in the forum "RC Jets"
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