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Western States Electric Fly June 6-8 Sepulveda Basin
Western States Electric Fly 3-day event at the Sepulveda Basin in Los Angeles, CA, June 6-8. There will be a 70 amp charging station during the day time, and a 50 amp station during the night, including hook-ups for banana plugs and alligator clips. 110v day and night power. Manufacturer demo flights (list TBA) and raffles every day. Fun fly competition (limbo, spot landing). Overnight camping/parking will be available on site. Vendors will be located on-site (vendors please inquire). Night flying will take place Friday and Saturday Night. www.westernefly.com for more info as it becomes avaibable. Any questions call or e-mail: Benny Elkouby benny@westernefly.com (818)-235-9098 Hope to see you guys there.
Posted on: 5/18/2008 6:25 PM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "Electric General Discussion"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=7511453
RE: Kadet Senior Conversion
At the moment, I'm using a 13x10 APC, but I'm considering moving to a 3-blade prop because I feel like I'm not loading the system up enough. Don't use a 17x10 unless you are sure about the ground clearance. The servos I'm using are DS821s. I had them laying around and figured they would work for this application. Hope that helps you out.
Posted on: 5/17/2008 5:54 PM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "Glow to Electric Conversions"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=7507899
RE: Kadet Senior Conversion
Thanks for the compliment and I hope your conversion goes well. PatternD
Posted on: 3/21/2008 3:02 PM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "Glow to Electric Conversions"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=7260513
RE: Sepulveda Basin
Hate to tell you that its not a rumor. He has moved a good portion of his stock to Smith Bros. Alot of the older control line models and free flight models now have a portion of a wall in the store. Kmot, Tony is also in Fridays, that's when I'm in working with him as well. All the hobby shops vary a bit depending on what you want. But, if you have time to kill and a full tank of gas, go ahead and check them all out. Well, maybe only 1 of the Hobby People stores. Patternd
Posted on: 3/20/2008 2:45 PM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "The Clubhouse"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=7255368
Kadet Senior Conversion
Hey guys let me know what you think of this build thread. I hope to do more, but just need to know what I can improve on. Introduction: This conversion has been done a few times, but I thought I’d give my own version of it and maybe help some of you out there make the decision to try a glow to electric conversion. The Kadet Senior is a plane that has been in existence in one form or another for 30 years, a staple of the R/C hobby. So, what brings a guy to a plane that is older than him in design, maybe it was the ease of build and light wing loading. This review will cover the conversion of a Kadet Senior ARF to electric and outline the process of installing the power system. The assembly of the plane should be easy enough for those considering this conversion and there are plenty of other articles that cover the construction of the nitro-version Kadet. Materials: The first decision was what motor I should go with for this project. The obvious choices included the Axi motors and the E-Flite 46, but in the end I chose the Common Sense RC E46-4 motor for its relatively inexpensive price and for its performance based on their smaller motors that I have flown before. Next comes the ESC, where I again went to CSRC and picked up their Z-75 OPTO speed control. I decided not to go with the BEC because of my own preference for having a separate battery to power the receiver. And, to keep the idea of comparatively low cost going, I finished off the power package with a CSRC 14.8v 6000mah budget pack. These packs are inexpensive for their size, although they don’t exactly have the same current rating of your typical Thunder Power or Flight Power battery. For a motor mount, I picked up the Great Planes Large Electric Motor Mount because it lined up perfectly with the motor and was one of the easiest ones I could see to mount without building a motor mount box. Building: I already had my Kadet assembled and waiting for its new power plant. The first step is to check all your components and get any connectors you need soldered up and ready. I made sure to check all my equipment before I placed it in the plane. This is easy enough and should be a good precaution to take with the assembly of any plane. After checking everything, I looked at the plane and figured out how to get the holes lined up for the motor mount. I centered the mount over the hole for the fuel tank. This helped me find the centerline for the prop as it lined up perfectly with the center of the opening. I continued on and marked where I needed to drill my holes for the mount. I started with a small drill and worked my way up until the holes were big enough. Then, as you can see in the picture, I used a small magnet and put the blind nuts on as shown. This made it much easier to reach in to place the blind nuts. I then pushed them into the hole and used a screw to help it dig into the wood. I did this for all four holes and made sure to use a bit of epoxy around the nut to hold it in. I then simply went ahead and mounted the mount on the plane. I made sure to use Loctite on the screws as I put them in. I then finished mounting the motor. Next up was to get the cooling holes made and mount the ESC. I found I had to make extensions for the ESC so that I could easily hook up the battery without needing to make a hatch in the bottom of the plane. For the extensions, I used another set of bullet connectors and about four inches of black and red wire, as well as some shrink-wrap. The next step is to secure the battery. I’m using a Velcro strap setup for mine, but you are welcome to use whatever you prefer. Flying: The Saturday after I finished the conversion happened to be perfect for a first flight, so I packed it up and brought my cameraman (my dad) along to get some pictures of the occasion. I did my typical check of the plane before setting up everything and heading out the flight line. The CG was right on with the battery directly beneath the recommended CG. The plane taxied well under its own power out the runway and tracked well as I throttled up to take off. The plane took off within about 150ft and slowly gained altitude as the electric motor whirred away. I brought the Kadet to about 300ft and flew it around for about two minutes before I decided to change props. I felt that the motor could provide a bit more power than the prop on it was producing. The plane came around to land, but it needed to be forced down from its glide to get it to come down onto the runway. While I had the plane on the worktable, I made sure nothing was loose and everything seemed to be right. Then I proceeded to switch from the 13x8E prop and went to a 13x10 regular prop. Taking the plane off again, I could notice the increased pull but felt the motor could handle more, but went ahead with my flight anyway. As the flight went on, I occasionally gave the plane a bit of a blip in power and it would immediately respond, thanks to that electric motor. Fifteen minutes later, I felt it was time to come down and once again forced the plane down and finally stopped it after it rolled out for another 200ft or so. I didn’t have a charger on me to check the mAhs that would go back into the battery, but the voltmeter provided a good gauge of how much more I could have flown. After roughly seventeen minutes of flying, this is including the previous short flight; my voltage only read an average of 3.8v across the four cells. On another flight the following Monday, I flew for around thirty minutes with my dad on buddy box. Managing the throttle the whole time, my average voltage afterwards was about 3.4v, which I figure would leave me with another five minutes worth of flight time. Conclusion: The Kadet Senior has always been famous for its easy flying characteristics and slow flight. The CSRC setup brought this design up to date and has given the Kadet that seamless you couldn’t get with the glow-powered version. The immediate response and long flight times makes the setup a great alternative to the typical glow engine. The downsides are the cost, the required modifications to the plane, and the charge times between flights if you only have one battery. But, for a first time flier who wants to fly a big electric, or the experienced pilot who feels the need for that one fun to fly, no hassle plane in their fleet, I would recommend converting the Kadet Senior to electric. The CSRC setup was easy to setup and contributed favorably to the flying style of the Kadet. The motor and ESC are priced competitively with the E-Flite line of electric equipment and a bit below the price point of the equivalent Axi and Atlas motors. The battery was well suited for this application with an amperage rating perfect for its intended application. You could use smaller four cell batteries or even up to a six cell with a high current draw, but I feel the extra weight didn’t adversely affect the plane and the extra flight time makes the idea of an electric Kadet much more logical as opposed to smaller batteries with an equivalent or higher cost. The ESC could have been easier to program and took a moment to figure out how to program it with the card. Overall I was pleased with the setup, but couldn’t give an opinion as to the aerobatic potential Let me know what you think! patternD
Posted on: 3/20/2008 2:40 PM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "Glow to Electric Conversions"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=7255355
RE: July 2007 Model Aviation
I think a good lead on the Simla would be to break down the construction features of the designers previous place. As they say a builder always builds upon previous ideas. That may provide some idea into the rib layout and fuse design of the Simla. patterd
Posted on: 9/27/2007 10:47 PM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "Classic RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=6423039
RE: Sepulveda Basin
Hey everybody, Scott, is this the long awaited return of the Spitfire at the Scale event? Billy, I like that paint scheme on the jet. Mike R., Black Magic VF3 placed 2nd in Masters at Nats Jason, I think that L-39 would fit in well at the Scale Masters. David
Posted on: 8/17/2007 2:10 AM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "The Clubhouse"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=6248963
RE: swing wing pattern plane
That's a really interesting design. Now I'm assuming the wings were swung and locked into position prior to flight unlike the current f-14 models that start straight wing and swing to swept. It would be nice to look at a set of plans for that model. patterndreamer
Posted on: 7/16/2007 12:50 AM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "Classic RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=6116153
RE: July 2007 Model Aviation
Great article man. It would be interesting to try and recreate that Simla. I mean sure it wouldn't be SPA-legal, but still I'm sure there is a scratch builder out ther who could look at the picture and recreate it in someway. Alot if the measurements can be derived from that picture. I might talk to a few local builders maybe a simla like plane will be on the drawing board. Who knows. Anyway once again great job on the article and it probably only skims the surface of SPA. Patternd
Posted on: 7/14/2007 2:21 AM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "Classic RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=6109200
RE: Sepulveda Basin
I'm out that way anyway Billy, I'll poke my head in and see how it goes for you. Hope to see a successful flight. David
Posted on: 6/21/2007 2:45 AM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "The Clubhouse"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=6014989
RE: Making a run at pattern
Hey, I'm looking at my super kaos in my garage, maybe build it soon. anyway, I was out at the field thursday, and someone had a symphony with a YS 1.60DZ. I asked a him a few questions and he simply told me it was the second best flying plane in the world, only thing better has to be ordered from france, of course zn-line. So, its kind of bouncing around as to what I'll do, I'm taking my bit of vacation time to hang around the field and check out what the few local, including Mike, are running here, power and plane wise. From, Patternd
Posted on: 6/10/2007 1:27 AM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5967605
RE: NEW CA GENESIS WORLD CHAMPION COMING SOON
Interesting winglets on it. they look like mini SFGs too me. Patternd
Posted on: 6/9/2007 9:14 PM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5966754
RE: Making a run at pattern
Thanks for the heads up on the article Duane, I actually have a SPA legal aircraft waiting for me to build. I have the Enya .60 all ready for it, but that will be more for practice than anything, and a good counter-point to the 2m plane. I will keep an eye out in MA for your article and thanks for your thoughts on pattern. Patternd
Posted on: 6/7/2007 3:50 PM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5957480
RE: Making a run at pattern
I'll answer this. It's a good first 4-stroke. Easier to tune than a YS or Saito and produces decent power. Depending on your application and size of it, its a good motor. Next time you have a question like this, please create a seperate thread, or place it in a forum like the engine forum. Patternd
Posted on: 6/4/2007 11:53 PM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5946046
RE: Making a run at pattern
Thanks for the further replies everybody, Mike, just need to sort out a time to meet up there. I'm just buying my summer supply of fuel for the ucd so whenever is good for you, it would be good to see someone else at the basin flying pattern besides the japanese fellows i always seem to end up near, nice guys but not much into talking to other people. patternd
Posted on: 6/4/2007 3:18 PM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5943747
RE: Making a run at pattern
I know, I got the intent of the comment. I like pattern because it will teach me to get more out of other planes and just keeps pushing you farther as you do more. Patternd
Posted on: 6/3/2007 11:00 PM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5941175
RE: Making a run at pattern
Hey all, Thanks for the advice, not so much on rendegade's. Anyway, I've been flying some sportsman manveurs with the UCD and I've gone to a pattern event. Patternd
Posted on: 6/3/2007 9:31 PM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5940715
Making a run at pattern
Hey Everybody, Well as most people on here probably do, I've been scanning the pattern forum here on RCU for a while and after a considerable number of flights on my UCD .60 with a ys .91, I'm thinking about making the move up to Pattern class. I've been practicing various manuveurs with my UCD and i've got them down alright, but obviously some of the more stressful manuveurs can't be done well with it. So I wanted everyone here's opinion on a 2m plane for me. I'm considering either the Black Magic vf3 or maybe the Aeroslave Symphony, or any other suggestions you all might have. Thanks alot, Patternd
Posted on: 6/2/2007 3:03 PM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=5934820
RE: Gyros
Thanks for the responses guys, its good to know what to save up for now. As long as I can stop drooling over the aftermarket 120 degree CCPM frame and swashplate setup, I should be getting ready to make my purchase soon. patternd
Posted on: 11/6/2006 12:00 AM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "T-Rex heli"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4960255
Gyros
Hey Guys, I'm looking at a t-rex and i want to know what gyro would be good for me. I'm flying with a JR 9303 so something that would work with it. I know about the Futaba 401 but I don't know if it will work with a JR radio. Thanks for the help, patternd
Posted on: 11/5/2006 6:06 PM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "T-Rex heli"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4958742
RE: Kingcat-Like Design and Build
Good to hear that everything is falling into place on this plane. I can't wait to see it built and flying. patternd
Posted on: 9/24/2006 12:39 AM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "Extreme Speed Prop Planes"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4785265
RE: Sepulveda Basin
Hey guys, Sounds like I missed out on a couple things while I was in Northern California. Sorry to hear about your boomerang jason. And scale dail its too bad the P-38 won't make it the scale contest. I always liked that plane. Also, it sounds like that one guy who decided to solo is definetly ready to fly on his own. I mean I haven't even made it to the buzz the flight line manuver yet, and he is already practicing limbo. Sounds like he is ready for a fun fly contest. Anyway, here in Davis there is a flying club here that is a complete 180 from the basin. It's private, 20% jets in the club of 200, a lake for float flying (and the unintented touch and no-gos). I'll see everybody at the Basin, most likely at the scale contest. Patternd
Posted on: 8/14/2006 11:16 AM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "The Clubhouse"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4621128
RE: A trip to the hobby shop just isn't what it used to be!
I'm going to try and defend the younger generation you guys are gripping about here. I find myself in a hobby dominated by people many times older than me, but those are sometimes the people I end up helping. Also, I will be the first to say that I like some arfs, but you can't beat whats availible in kit form, plans, or even not on a piece of paper but in your mind. So, the builder is not yet lost to the new batch of flyers. There will always be a builder group in the generation, the people who see a plane and say, "its nice but I bet I can build a better one." Patternd
Posted on: 7/17/2006 1:05 AM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "Golden Age, Vintage & Antique RC"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4510347
RE: EAM B-17 "A Bit O' Lace"
I can't keep the droll off my keyboard looking at that plane. That plane is what every scale pilot strives for. A plane that with the right pictures, looks full scale. Patternd
Posted on: 7/6/2006 5:11 PM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "RC Scale Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4470594
RE: RC Airplanes in Los Angeles
First one I can tell you is the one I work for. Smith Brothers Hobby Center at 8941 Reseda Blvd. in Reseda. Reseda is in the san fernando valley so check out the basin while you are out here. Patternd
Posted on: 6/29/2006 12:02 AM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "RC Scale Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4443268
RE: kV of an electric motor?
basically the way i understand it. KV has to do with the amount of RPMs per volt of power. so a 4100kV motor would spin 4100rpm per volt from the battery pack. That's how I understand it. Patternd
Posted on: 4/30/2006 12:36 AM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "Extreme Speed Prop Planes"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4222106
RE: how well can you build??
I'd say I'm at kit leve, but I can't cover a plane to save my life. I can fix holes and parts but not covering whole pieces. Patternd
Posted on: 4/28/2006 1:12 AM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "The Clubhouse"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4215377
RE: Another RC Great takes tha last Flight West
I am sad to see greats like this man slowly dieing off like this. He was one of the legends of the hobby. May he rest in peace and his family has my condolences. Patternd
Posted on: 4/28/2006 1:06 AM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "The Clubhouse"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4215365
RE: TF Gold series Sea Fury
Hey, I'm in the same stages on the Sea Fury as you. I was thinking along the lines of an RCV SP 1.20. Whats nice is it will require very little cutting of the cowl. those are my thoughts. Patternd
Posted on: 4/11/2006 2:45 AM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "RC Scale Aircraft"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4150870
RE: Sepulveda Basin
Great job Jason. It really makes it look like that you are putting on a world-class event. Bravo. patternd
Posted on: 3/13/2006 12:51 AM by Author "patterndreamer"
in the forum "The Clubhouse"
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4027208
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