RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
I hate to admit this but it's been pointed out to me that ever since I've had my Rabbit, I've been flying it with the accelerometers turned OFF [8|] Having said that, it's apparent that A. I'm not a rocket scientist, and B This is one VERY stable board because it flies so well just on gyros. But having added accelerometers I can see a definite change. Not terribly sure it's for the better but at least now it completely stops if I let go of the sticks. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYSu_jnHy6s[/youtube]
Posted on: 8/11/2012 9:10 AM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Parrot AR.Drone 2.0
Have you tried using the height lock indoors? My son had the 1st generation of this bird and when he locked in the sonar and flew over something like a couch, it overcompensated and flew into the ceiling. Last year he brought it up here and we flew it a few times and it was cool and all but the range wasn't great and it felt awkward trying to control it with a touch screen. Call me old fashioned but my fingers need to feel a gimbal, otherwise I was looking more at the Iphone than I was at the AR. He eventually sold the AR and went to a more traditional quad. We tried putting it up against my 600mm KK quad and the poor little drone was no match for it in several catagories. The KK quad doesn't have all the nice technical features of the AR but it's performance, range, and robustness more than made up for it's limitations. Other boards are now getting into the "flip" mode now also, so that's not completely an AR thing anymore. All in all the AR is nice and it's cute and all but just like most things in this aspect of the hobby, it has it's limitations.
Posted on: 7/29/2012 8:04 AM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "FPV, UAV''s & Drones"
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RE: Where to start?
If it says complete except for radio and battery that means it has the computer board.
Posted on: 7/25/2012 2:00 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Where to start?
www.goodluckbuy.com is a good place to start. You can get the entire thing pretty cheaply.
Posted on: 7/22/2012 3:29 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
During your learning curve, I would uncheck everything but the height hold box. Also, do the horizontal calibration but make sure the quad is on a very level surface. I do mine on the dining room table. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcaYq3BMmcg[/youtube] Before you power it up after doing the calibrations, set your trims and subtrims on your tx to zero. Then try to find the most level place you can to take off so the accelerometer will have a good place to attain "level" upon arming. Then you should notice a better levelling. Here are my settings. The "aux" settings are if you have your switches enabled on the right side. One the other hand these are things that don't require a switch. Stability Level Dyna Stability Balance Level Yaw Stability You can set these and they will not need a switch. IMHO opinion your "stability" settings are a bit low. This is the effect the gyros exert on your quad. "Balance" is the accelerometer which controls self leveling. 50% will be ok on this parameter as a beginning adjustment. One thing I've noticed about this board is that you can turn the gyros way up and it won't occilate. If you turn up the balance too high it will cause the quad to move slowly in any given direction. Less balance means faster forward speed. The "AUX" settings are something you can assign to a switch. So if you want super stable mode for taking photos once airborne but then want to turn those off when you want to fly more aggresively you can either put the aggressive settings on AUX so you can bypass the stable settings or vice versa. I don't have my quad set up to go back and forth so I just put everything on stable and leave it that way because I use my rabbit quad for video and it needs to be stable all the time. I have a KK quad for getting crazy.
Posted on: 7/4/2012 11:12 AM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
It's in the photos on post 182
Posted on: 7/2/2012 3:07 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Turnigy Talon V2
That should be a very capable setup. I have a KK Ver5.5 and love it for sport flying and I too, have a KK2 coming [:D] The KK is very hard to beat, especially for a first FCB.
Posted on: 7/2/2012 2:29 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Turnigy Talon V2
I've had 28 series motors and now I have 3530-14 1100kv Hawkings motors. I definately prefer the larger motors, especially for carrying loads. Much smoother and lots quieter. Bigger bearings means longer bearing life.
Posted on: 7/1/2012 2:54 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
I tore into my DX7 and redid the throttle ratchet. Got to do a little testing before bedtime and that seems to have taken care of the throttle issue. Now I need to find some 10X4.7 props with large hubs. The prop adapters on these bigger motors are 5/16" and I hate drilling such large holes in SF props. I might have to go on tower's website and order zinger wooden props. I also retimed my esc's to low timing. I read that this will make the motors run cooler and it really does. I have an overabundance of power so the drop was not even noticeable. Got my gimbal all painted up and also did some work on the way it mounts so now it's even more stable. I've also got some dummy security camera domes coming to complete the new look. Somehow Tupperware just doesn't look right.
Posted on: 7/1/2012 5:45 AM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
I use a Sony Bloggie (the one with rotatable lense) and I got the ATG 600 frame from GLB. I'm using Hawkings 3530-14 1100kv motors with Gemfan 11X4.7 props and AGL Hobbies soft motor mounts. I need to take my DX7 apart and redo the throttle ratchet. I can't get it to set into one spot so I need to soften the ratchet way up.
Posted on: 6/30/2012 4:28 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
Here's a video with my homebuilt gimbal. I like the way mine works better. It's more solid. Since it's bright aluminum I've got it off being painted right now so I'll post some photos when I'm done. Unfortunately it doesn't roll but that's not a big deal. I've learned to fly slowly and not rock the quad while I'm filming. Today it's pretty breezy so I'm still getting rocked around a little. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5-IjGGKDQk[/youtube]
Posted on: 6/30/2012 2:07 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
Here is the onboard video. I don't like the "factory" camera gimbal so I put one of my own on it. This is the factory gimbal in action. Just not solid enough to suit me. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5tLIRGlf1E[/youtube]
Posted on: 6/30/2012 10:30 AM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
Here is the new video [:D] [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ZtKtlG3Ng[/youtube]
Posted on: 6/29/2012 6:11 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
My sonar module is around 100mm off the deck. I'm running fw 12.06 with Ver 1.101 upgrade. It's the very first upgrade on the other site. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=20680356&postcount=376 At this point in time I'm actually thinking about not having auto land set up. I have it on the other side of my height hold switch so when it's up it's in height hold and when it's down it goes into auto land. I've found that sometimes even with the auto land switch pulled that I have to still drop the throttle a click to get it to come down, especially when it's up a ways. On a positive note, my motors finally got here and now I'm ready to do some flight testing. I'll probably wait till tomorrow though. I'm really beat from working in 110 degree heat. I really like my new frame and gimbal too [:D]
Posted on: 6/29/2012 2:43 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Walkera MX400 Quad impressions, great
So by disagreeing with you I'm "insulting" you? At over 400 dollars US you can buy much more capable aircraft. Apparently you're in the minority because you don't hear much about this quad anywhere. You put the question out there so don't get bent out of shape when someone answers you. The consensus is that Walkera builds "toy" quality rc vehicles that break easily and aren't very repairable. If you like it that's fine but don't get your nose out of joint just because someone disagrees with you. Even you gave two answers for it's unpopularity, being it takes 50% throttle to get airborne and the throttle isn't very responsive, two things that are very undesirable in a multirotor. Other things that make it less than desirable are the design of it's electronics. With everything on one board, if something like an esc goes out, you're screwed. This esc board costs more than a lot of arf kits for the total thing. http://www.oomodel.com/walkera-uf0mx400-brushless-speed-controller-hmufomx400z23-p-62265.html?zenid=48ebn8eul14kp68ldbgur71a34 I can buy 10 "spektrum" receivers for what 1 walkera receiver costs. http://www.oomodel.com/walkera-uf0mx400-parts-receiver-hmufomx400z24-p-62266.html For just those two items I can build an entire quad with money to spare, including receiver. And this one is completely assembled. It's less than what just the receiver and esc's cost for your walkera. http://www.goodluckbuy.com/mini-x400-v3-arf-quadcopter-set-with-free-flight-controller-assembled.html Hey it's great if you like it but if something breaks you're going to like it a LOT less.
Posted on: 6/28/2012 1:58 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Walkera MX400 Quad impressions, great
Although it may be smooth, Walkera is on the "toy" end of the scale with quadrotors. You said it best yourself when you said it took 50% throttle just to get it airborne. That doesn't leave a lot of lift for things like fpv or camera equipment. For the same money you can build something that will lift a pretty decent payload and is more repairable. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq2Ry6kN44E[/youtube]
Posted on: 6/27/2012 7:53 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
Glad to be of assistance Phoenix [:D] Now if my motors would just GET HERE [8|] Hopefully tomorrow or thursday. They're in the US and through customs at least [:D] I got a new ATG 600 frame and a new gimbal with servo to use for roll. In testing it works great after some tweaking. I would like it to remain on all the time but I can't get it to work without it being on a switch. I thought if you unchecked everything it worked by default. Oh well.
Posted on: 6/26/2012 6:54 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Battery Adapter Multi-Harness??
Here is a harness using jst connectors. http://www.goodluckbuy.com/xaircraft-x650-v8-e3009-power-cable-9-in-1.html Or you can use a distribution board http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-2-8-Way-Power-Distribution-Hub-V2-for-Multicopter-Quadcopter-/120933739654?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c28366c86 This one takes bullet connectors. http://www.ebay.com/itm/No-Wires-4MM-to-4-3-5MM-Female-Bullet-QuadCopter-Power-Distribution-Adapter-/330743305134?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d01d653ae Here's a distribution board allready with plugs. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ships-From-US-New-Quadcopter-Power-Distribution-Board-RC-Helicopter-/200769296070?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ebec856c6
Posted on: 6/23/2012 7:39 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: KK board questions
Yes I am and I have one ordered also. At 30 dollars for KK reliability with accelerometer it should be a really great board [:D]
Posted on: 6/23/2012 9:47 AM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Seriously! $450 Control Board!?
I have seen people that never flew anything get a KK board had no trouble with getting it to fly. There are some that have trouble walking and chewing gum too but those are everywhere. Anyone with a reasonable amount of experience flying rc will have no real trouble setting up a KK board. Youtube and Vimeo are literally packed with videos of happy KK fliers. Kaptainkuk literally brought multirotor flying to the masses with the KK board. Is it the "best"? No. It's a very basic board. No frills, no special abilities or anything like that. But you don't need a computerised transmitter to fly it. It works with any 4 channel radio no matter how cheap. It's also very acceptable of just about any esc or motor combo, unlike many of the "better" boards out there. Just this page alone has over 1100 videos of very good flying quads. And I doubt that many of these guys are anywhere near Warthox's experience. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kk+quadcopter&oq=kk+quad&aq=0&aqi=g4&aql=&gs_l=youtube.1.0.0l4.1400.2571.0.6025.7.5.0.2.2.0.112.429.2j3.5.0...0.0.7E9ssB3ioaE My view is that at least in the beginning you can either spend a lot of money with no guarantees or you can spend your money wisely and get into this hobby economically. More expensive is not necessarily smarter. This rationale is the same thing I ran into back in my glow plane days. Guys would show up at the field with these behemoth IMAAC planes that had all sorts of mixing, gyros, computerised radios, etc etc and honestly, in their hands they flew no better than the guys that had 10th of the expenditure in their equipment. What's the sense of having something that does your flying for you? If you have to rely on technology over ability maybe you should consider some other hobby. I've had other flight controllers that cost me many times more than my KK but when I simply want to go out and thrash the sky, the KK quad is the one I always reach for. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1zqLm0FoDA[/youtube]
Posted on: 6/23/2012 8:19 AM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: KK board questions
I don't think FMA works with it. Hobbyking is coming out with a KK board with accelerometers for only 30 dollars so a copilot won't even be necessary. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__24723__Hobbyking_KK2_0_Multi_rotor_LCD_Flight_Control_Board.html
Posted on: 6/23/2012 7:13 AM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: lipo question
You need a harness. You'll need 2 males and one female connector with wires. Solder all the red wires together. Then solder all the black wires together like a Y harness for servos.
Posted on: 6/23/2012 6:53 AM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Seriously! $450 Control Board!?
That's funny, the KK board has been flown with great effect by thousands of people everywhere. It's not hard to set up. In fact it's one of the easiest boards to set up and fly. I have yet to see any board that did not have a learning curve. I have also read lots of posts by people that were very frustrated with MK boards. They all have their supporters and detractors. If you want to spend tons of money that's your problem but it's not something you absolutely have to do, at least in the beginning. At less than 20 dollars shipped, the KK board offers by far the most bang for the buck of any board out there and if you read the manual very carefully, almost anyone can set it up and fly it well. I'm willing to bet that world wide, there have been by far, more KK boards sold out there than any other board. There's a guy in Germany that goes by the name of "warthox" Apparently he hasn't heard that the KK board is "junk" https://vimeo.com/14604109 https://vimeo.com/14192366 https://vimeo.com/14406475 And now Hobby King is coming out with a KK board that has 3 axis accelerometers and doesn't need a computer to configure. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__24723__Hobbyking_KK2_0_Multi_rotor_LCD_Flight_Control_Board.html
Posted on: 6/23/2012 6:51 AM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Turnigy Talon V2
The 3530-14 1100KV motors call for 10X4.7 props. That setup should be really powerfull with that frame. Have you purchased anything yet? I see that HK is coming out with a KK board that has accelerometers. Self leveling. [:D] http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__24723__Hobbyking_KK2_0_Multi_rotor_LCD_Flight_Control_Board.html
Posted on: 6/23/2012 6:49 AM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
I just wish my new motors would get here so I can get back to testing. [:@] I came to the conclusion that the motors I was using are simply too small for the loads I am lifting so I ordered some 3530-14 1100kv Hawkings. I'm right at 1.6kg so I need more lifting power.
Posted on: 6/23/2012 6:35 AM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
[quote]ORIGINAL: Jerry Campbell Does anyone know the esc update rate for the RCTimer/ Hobbywing 40 amp esc or how to find out? Thanks Jerry  [/quote] Should be 330 same as a 30 amp.
Posted on: 6/19/2012 8:27 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
[quote]ORIGINAL: pheonix74 No need to cut them. Turn the plug upside down and only use the SIGNAL on 3 of them.  [/quote] I have actually read somewhere that you really need the ground wire hooked up. Having said that, I'm using all 3 wires on all my esc's without issue. Mine all get reasonably the same temp. Very little variation.
Posted on: 6/18/2012 2:09 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
No worries bones. I just wanted to point out that if this thing were truly even MWii material, someone would have loaded "real" MWii code onto it to prove their allegations. But since no one to my knowledge ever has, that more or less confirms my assumptions that the MWii crowd is all wet.
Posted on: 6/18/2012 4:08 AM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
According to Mr Pang, if you have all 4 esc's plugged in, they sense each other somehow, and only one provides power. That's why one gets warmer than the others. One thing you need to do with a multirotor is to switch the battery from "lipo" to "nimh" on your esc programming. The reason you do this is to bypass the "low voltage cutoff" This keeps one esc from cutting out before the others.
Posted on: 6/17/2012 7:26 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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RE: Rabbit Multirotor Control Board.
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Posted on: 6/17/2012 4:15 PM by Author "randall1959" in the forum "Multi Rotor Helicopters"
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