RE: New pattern ship recomendation
It is an ESC issue with certain combinations of motor and so forth. Some guys report that they can go better than 30% using the 80HV, I never could. I cannot remember if Himax recommended the 30% brake setting. This discussion on other threads indicated that the 30% setting would get rid of the noise if one was experiencing it. I was, so that's how I set mine. Enjoy your Vanquish... Rick
Posted on: 8/29/2012 10:14 PM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: New pattern ship recomendation
I am just using the recommended setting from Himax as well. If you set your breaking to 30% the squeak will go away. Anything over 30% and mine made noise as well. Rick
Posted on: 8/29/2012 6:00 PM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: New pattern ship recomendation
I use two 5s packs wired in series using 4mm bullets. I have never used the Turnigys. The zippy compacts and blue zippy 20c's are light and produce good power. I have had zero problems using zippy packs and get 100 flight or more out of them. I always try and wait for the packs that I want to get to the Hobby King USA warehouse as shipping from the international site is expensive. Hopefully the compacts will be available in the fall. I did see that they had some blue zippy 20c's available but I think a friend of mine bought all they had. Just keep checking Hobby King.
Posted on: 8/28/2012 8:31 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: New pattern ship recomendation
I also use the Castle HV80 V2...
Posted on: 8/28/2012 7:53 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: New pattern ship recomendation
What Archie is telling you about the Vanquish is good advice. I went with most of his equipment recommendations when I purchased mine last winter and it has worked out well. The Himax 210 has been bullet proof and is reliable with plenty of power and is a direct fit with no mods necessary using the inner three pre-drilled mounting holes . If you use the blue spacers that come with the motor against the firewall on the motor side it gives you a perfect fit for your back-plate and spinner. Mounting the motor takes about ten minutes. The Hacker Q60 is a direct fit as well using the pre-drilled outer 4 blind nuts. Use good servos and your choice of a redundant rx power system and you will get hundreds of care free flying time. This is what I use on mine: Motor - Himax 210 Prop - personal choice but I use the wide blade variety APC 20.5x12W, APC 21x13W and I am going to test a Mejzlik 20.5x12WEL (wide, electric, light). You can get them at Desert Aircraft and they are light at 40grams. Elevator servos - Futaba 9650's Rudder Servo - Futaba BLS 451 Aileron servos - Futaba 9551's Flight paks - 2 Zippy Compact 5000, 25c. Or the blue zippy 20c's work very well. Rx set-up - 2 Thunder Power 350mAh, 25c with a Powerbox duel regulator. The Vanquish is a great flying airplane and well built. I have around 500 flights on mine and it still looks new. Rick
Posted on: 8/28/2012 7:47 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: Sources for Pattern Airplanes/kits
David Hoppes, has a nitro and electric version coming out called the Destiny. http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/aerodesign/index.html
Posted on: 7/15/2012 10:02 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Who has the power?
If it turns out reliable, that Hacker would be a nice choice as well. Rick
Posted on: 7/6/2012 9:30 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: Who has the power?
Yes, if you need to shed a few grams pull out the wallet...
Posted on: 7/6/2012 9:09 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: Who has the power?
Yes I suspected you might need something a little stronger for F...
Posted on: 7/6/2012 9:06 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: Who has the power?
Joe, I fly with Dale Arnold and he passed down a Himax 210 to Charles Simmons, they both flew it to death, and then Charles just passed it down to Dale's son Kyle thru various airplane horse trade's and the motor is still going strong. It has to have over 500 or 600 flights on it. I have one as well and I have close to three hundred flights on mine with no issues at all. I rarely go full throttle with it flying Advanced. I have also flown most of the upcoming Masters schedule with it and had no power issues at all, its really strong. The only downside, it is a little heavier than the other motors mentioned here you might compare weight if that is going to be an issue for you. I suspect if you are flying F3A you might consider going high dollar, but otherwise the 210 is all you are going to need...Easy install out-runner, reliable, powerful and cost effective. Rick
Posted on: 7/6/2012 8:53 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: Ordered new batteries . . . we'll see . . .
I am testing a pair of 5000 25c compact packs, just breaking them in. I replaced the 5mm bullets that came with them with 4mm. They weigh in at 1167grams...nice. Rick
Posted on: 6/27/2012 7:42 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: Extreme Flight Vanquish 2m Build Thread
[quote]ORIGINAL: danamania [quote]ORIGINAL: rix I have my cg set at 190 which puts my packs about 1inch or so in front of the wing tube. In my experience, the Vanquish is not real cg sensitive as I have moved my packs around without much trim change. I just kept moving my packs back until pitch coupling went away on knife edge. 190 is where I ended up with it. I am using a Himax 210 and a heavy
Posted on: 6/27/2012 6:53 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: Extreme Flight Vanquish 2m Build Thread
I have my cg set at 190 which puts my packs about 1inch or so in front of the wing tube. In my experience, the Vanquish is not real cg sensitive as I have moved my packs around without much trim change. I just kept moving my packs back until pitch coupling went away on knife edge. 190 is where I ended up with it. I am using a Himax 210 and a heavy APC prop so take that into consideration with your setups. I made adjustments to my incidence until my up trim went away and to set the aileron trim. I suspect I am at .05 or better, stabs are at zero. I installed gator adjusters on the front which made incidence adjustments much easier, It was well worth the time to install them. The plane fly's well in advanced for me with this setup. I am at about 200 or so flights with it this way. I do have a slight pull to the right on exit when pushing to inverted for the full roll outside loop and I have not found a satisfactory fix for it yet. Other than that, no other bad tendency anywhere else flying the Advanced schedule. Rick
Posted on: 6/26/2012 8:23 PM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: What's going on with the NSRCA?
There are free online magazine publication services that might be an option as well and would save allot of web work trying to format an online k-factor every month. Issuu is a web magazine publishing service that will take a PDF document and format it into a nice magazine style interactive interface for the reader. The service also gives the reader an option to download the pdf and print it for those that prefer to have a hard copy. Once the PDF is created you can either link out to the magazine directly to the issuu server or you can imbed a script they give you directly into your site for a more personal touch and continue to offer it to NSRCA members only. You can trigger an option to make the publication public or private. http://issuu.com/explore
Posted on: 5/14/2012 6:33 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: What's going on with the NSRCA?
Have you Contacted the NSRCA president directly on this? I think it would be prudent for all NSRCA members to have a certain level of empathy and respect to the NSRCA volunteers who care enough to take on the tasks of running the organization. If a member has concerns or questions on a specific topic then it would behoove them to contact the appropriate volunteers directly to voice the concern or ask the question. The general membership is not going to have the answers you seek and it only serves to discourage volunteers who accept responsibility when negative tones directed at them are voiced in an open forum. A little diplomacy and respect goes a long way in the overall health of any organization run by volunteers. Mis-information and conjecture concerning overall desires of the membership is not a desired path either. Referring to our volunteers as “they� assumes an elite group have taken over and created an oligarchy. The “they� are members just like the rest of us who love aerobatics and most are out flying contests like the rest of us do. Good folk are tough to find, so let’s be mindful of that. Contact the appropriate representative directly with your concerns\questions first. If you are not satisfied with those results take it up with the NSRCA president. If those results are not satisfied, then cast your vote in the next election cycle and or campaign to volunteer yourself.
Posted on: 5/13/2012 9:28 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Extreme Flight Vanquish 2m Build Thread
The Q60 F3A is a direct fit to the blind nuts pre-installed in the firewall. The Himax 210 as mentioned above is what I use and I am very happy with it and is also a direct fit. The Himax gets thru Masters and Advanced with no problem. Rick
Posted on: 4/13/2012 1:51 PM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: Extreme Flight Vanquish 2m Build Thread
You should have it close enough from the bench, now you just need to start dialing it in by flying it. This is going to be tricky unless you have a set of Gator adjusters on the front or rear of the wings as you need to start dialing in a small amount of positive until that up trim starts going away. The system that comes with the plane makes this more difficult to fine tune. You might consider taking the time now to install the Gators. With the Gators installed all you need to do is start increasing the positive in the panels a half turn at a time and fly it. It should require a click or two of down trim from that adjustment. Land it check, your elevator trim and repeat until your satisfied. Are you holding any aileron trim? The Gators makes this adjustment much easier as well.
Posted on: 2/26/2012 9:10 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: Extreme Flight Vanquish 2m Build Thread
[quote]ORIGINAL: g_mkoch question: Has anyone tried to do any bafling to better cool the motor? [/quote] The only thing I have done so far is to cut the cone on the spinner. The cowl does supply good airflow so my motor ESC and batteries are staying cool but I have not flown on 90 degree weather yet. If you mount your ESC underneath in the cowl area it will get good airflow from the cowl openings.
Posted on: 2/4/2012 11:02 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: Pattern Rules Proposals
[quote]ORIGINAL: grantb [quote]ORIGINAL: pattratt I do agree with doing away with the weight rule but I don't think it will happen for FAI.[:o] Dick [/quote] Sorry to butt in on the USA discussion again but is it necessary to change the rules for FAI? I think that everyone is (should be) more worried about the development of pattern and smoothing the way for the competitors on their way up. Someone mentioned that most pilots flying F3A (Masters in USA, I believe) are still predominantly developmental pilots. If one considers that the bulk of pilots flying P13/F13 are developing their skills then there is no debate that the weight limit should be increased. The argument then changes to how the team selection process should change. I believe that changing the weight limit for Team selection events will be counter productive. Pattern is finely balanced with LSA and by destroying the balance we could end up with a mishmash (not good american, I know) which would be bad. On the other hand I believe that an increase in weight limit right up to the top class is good. In South Africa we have now adopted the FAI sequence of 4 x P's and a 2 xF's for the flyoffs for team selection events. Top three ''P'' flights are normalised and divided by three to get a score out of 1000. The top 6 pilots then compete in a F schedule fly off. The best two of the F normalised score is added to the final P score to get a total score out of 2000 and determine the winner for team selection events. I feel that pilots qualifying for the fly-offs must comply with FAI rules but that an increased weight restriction for F3A (Masters) pilots not competing for team selection can only improve participation. Pilots moving up to the top class are given the opportunity to compete with their existing equipment and grow while the 'top dogs'can compete for team placings without disadvantage. [/quote] No proposals that I am aware of include FAI...Only AMA classes.
Posted on: 2/2/2012 12:59 PM by Author "rix" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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A Swarm of Nano Quadrotors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YQIMGV5vtd4
Posted on: 2/2/2012 11:26 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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A Swarm of Nano Quadrotors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YQIMGV5vtd4
Posted on: 2/2/2012 11:25 AM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: new spinner idea
When I was flying a Wind110 I had a Hacker A50-16L V1 in it and it would get really warm so I cut the cone on the stock spinner and it seemed to help a little. A friend has a V2 in his and it runs much cooler than mine ever did. Your idea should really be of benefit I would think.
Posted on: 1/30/2012 9:10 PM by Author "rix" in the forum "Electric Pattern Aircraft"
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RE: Pattern Rules Proposals
I think we are starting to make progress here...
Posted on: 1/30/2012 8:24 PM by Author "rix" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Pattern Rules Proposals
[quote]ORIGINAL: nonstoprc [quote]ORIGINAL: rix [quote]ORIGINAL: nonstoprc rtx, Do you mind post some info on your plane? Is it way over-weight? [/quote] I went through all of this on another thread somewhere I think, but, I am flying a Vanquish (which I really like...allot) using all stock stuff and less expensive zippy 5000mAh 25c batteries, a redundant Rx power system with two 350mAh batteries
Posted on: 1/29/2012 9:59 PM by Author "rix" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Pattern Rules Proposals
[quote]ORIGINAL: petec [quote]ORIGINAL: rix Appreciated...I like the Powerbox switch as its two regulators are built into the single case and it has nice safety features built in which illuminate leds on either side when it detects any issue in the system whether it be a low cell in one of the packs, one of the regulators going bad and or electrical failure on either side, so I am not willing
Posted on: 1/29/2012 8:39 PM by Author "rix" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Pattern Rules Proposals
[quote]ORIGINAL: petec [quote]ORIGINAL: rix Appreciated...I like the Powerbox switch as its two regulators are built into the single case and it has nice safety features built in which illuminate leds on either side when it detects any issue in the system whether it be a low cell in one of the packs, one of the regulators going bad and or electrical failure on either side, so I am not willing
Posted on: 1/29/2012 8:22 PM by Author "rix" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Pattern Rules Proposals
[quote]ORIGINAL: rix [quote]ORIGINAL: cmoulder The last few ounces are the ones that count. If you can remove something, remove it. No switch is necessary to plug the reg into the Rx. In fact, it's one less point of failure. Are you using a serial adapter for the battery packs? These things are heavy! If so, connect the packs directly together in series and then make a common plug to the ESC
Posted on: 1/29/2012 3:34 PM by Author "rix" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Pattern Rules Proposals
[quote]ORIGINAL: petec Then again no one said an competitor needs to use a 2Mx2M airframe at the NATS either, that is a choice. If they CHOOSE to go to the size maximum, then they MIGHT bump up against the weight limit. Why is there an FAI style spinner? I need one to make length on my plane instead of a longer profile spinner. I think the size rule should be removed as it is archaic and makes me spend money on things I wouldn't have to if it did not exist. That will help breathe life into pattern, right? Any limitation can be argued as to why it should not be there, but the fact is if you want to compete, especially at the National level, then you will have to comply with the rules. Competition, no matter what venue, costs money. Once you cross the line into competition your cost goes up. I used to race cars and motorcycles, as soon as I crossed the line from just enjoying a high performance vehicle to competing it cost me cash....same vehicle in my first entry level classes was an immediate cost increase just to meet the rules. Argue these rules until you all have carpal tunnel syndrome but those are facts. Change the weight rule if you can get enough support and it will cost the competitor money to use what they PERCEIVE as needed equipment when the game changes to meet the new rule limit. No ifs or mights, nature abhors a vacuum and someone will take advantage of and leeway given. If pattern is really about the best pilot then you really don't need a 2M airframe do you? I will never be at the top of the Masters class and really don't need a 2M airplane but I have one because I wanted one. I can lose just as well with a smaller airframe. [:D] Ok time to go and get my 5 year old ready for a day of adventure. [/quote] Petic...The size rule is in place for obvious and rational reasons. The noise rule saved the community from certain demise and the technology filtered down to the masses which was of benefit to the AMA not just the NSRCA. And the current weight restrictions are in place because...
Posted on: 1/29/2012 3:18 PM by Author "rix" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Pattern Rules Proposals
[quote]ORIGINAL: cmoulder The last few ounces are the ones that count. If you can remove something, remove it. No switch is necessary to plug the reg into the Rx. In fact, it's one less point of failure. Are you using a serial adapter for the battery packs? These things are heavy! If so, connect the packs directly together in series and then make a common plug to the ESC. Can you post a photo of your arming switch? I am guessing you have the packs (perhaps along with their serial adapter) plugged into one side of the arming switch adapter and the ESC plugged into the other side of the arming switch. You can save at least a half ounce by wiring the arming switch directly into the ESC power wire, per photo. Depending on exactly what you're using with regards to the above, the suggest changes could save 2 oz or more and the cost is ZERO. The 'heavier' Falcon CF prop is $72 (from maxxprod.com), but it still saves more than 2 ounces. Those 4400 packs Chuck suggested are $39 apiece - very nice quality and 40C rated. Also, as suggested, the GP e-spinners are very light and very inexpensive. [/quote] Appreciated...I like the Powerbox switch as its two regulators are built into the single case and it has nice safety features built in which illuminate leds on either side when it detects any issue in the system whether it be a low cell in one of the packs, one of the regulators going bad and or electrical failure on either side, so I am not willing to give those features up. My packs are connected in series using 4m bullets. I use bullets on everything. My castle 80 has been sent back for the recall, but I will check when I get it back and re-address how I am configuring it. Any of the Falcon props look nice and i am sure they are but even at $72 It would be prudent to have two as I know they are prone to tip chipping and would render a $72 display on my work bench. Then one would need to spend an additional $72 to get the backup in place again. My $15 APC performs beautifully and I simply cannot justify the Falcon cost as the performance that I need, the APC delivers. The only time I ever used CF props were with the YS140's as they did produce a little more efficiency in that setting and I justified the cost because of it. When it comes to performance I will always justify a cost. I would not consider using 4400's as it is not enough for me personally. It might be for others, but I put 3700, sometimes more back in on windy days and I am not going to sacrifice my plane or my batteries to save a few ounces. 4900 or 5000 is what I use and would not feel comfortable using anything less. The GP spinners and lightened back plate comes with the Vanquish hardware package.
Posted on: 1/29/2012 1:55 PM by Author "rix" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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RE: Pattern Rules Proposals
[quote]ORIGINAL: RC_Pattern_Flyer I think you are speaking from frustration. There are inexpensive strong motors on the market. I fly Dualsky 6355 motors and the one that flies on 10S is 578 grams and the motor costs $225. It will be back at 2DogRC in mid april i believe. Replacing the prop is a purchase that keeps on giving no matter what you fly as long as you dont break it. Are you using the Great planes lightened back plate spinner? it is 12 dollars, you trim of the front for additional cooling and loose a bit more weight. Honestly ... if you are going to be moving to masters and you have been flying this airframe for 2 years, it may be time to purchase a new one and you can make the changes in the new airframe and pay for them by selling the old one. Good Luck, feel free to contact me if you need any other assistance. Chuck [/quote] Thanks Chuck for your time in trying to address a few of the issues, but I am very satisfied with my equipment and its safety features and performance. The Vanquish is a stunningly good flying airplane at 5100, 4998 or I suspect, anything less. My plan is to purchase another one for next year so I have two going into Masters.
Posted on: 1/29/2012 1:17 PM by Author "rix" in the forum "RC Pattern Flying"
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